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Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. fairfax Send a noteboard - 08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM
I misunderstood your original post. I agree so far the White Tower has been mostly useless. A White Tower that had not isolated itself from the real world, a White Tower that had not blinded itself with arrogance, or a White Tower that was willing not to be the center of attention would have been a help to Rand.


What I was asking is If the split is so good and necessary, why was it so important that Egwene win? What is the significance of her victory? Why should all these benefits of the Tower's benign neglect of Rand and the world cease, and what can Egwene actually provide that is significantly better than that same benign neglect?


Egwene obviously is acceptable to both the SAS and the White Tower AS, and can unite the Tower. Egwene will not allow the White Tower to be subjugated by Rand, but will allow the White Tower to be allied with Rand. Egwene has a much more adaptable mind (since she hasn't been indoctrinated by the Tower for 100 years) than the average Aes Sedai. Her castigating the Aes Sedai for trying to capture Rand, for trying to control Rand, and her idea of an embassy to Rand all suggest she is willing to help Rand.

A united White Tower adds strength in the number of channelers, a skill set the WO and windfinders don't have, an army with a Great General, and moral and diplomatic suasion in Randland. A White Tower willing to facilitate Rand's victory would be very helpful indeed. Randland would be much better off with benign neglect than a White Tower that is trying to "guide" Rand's victory

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So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM 1932 Views
I think the breaking of the tower was.... - 07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM 844 Views
Nice idea, that does seem to make sense in hindsight. - 07/02/2010 06:18:35 PM 640 Views
Yes, but that isn't the point. - 08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM 730 Views
Re: Yes, but that isn't the point. - 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM 712 Views
YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM 635 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM 737 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM 704 Views
Re: the wise ones. - 13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM 550 Views
They're not the biggest clan... - 13/02/2010 02:20:38 PM 674 Views
Thank you - 15/02/2010 01:24:05 PM 748 Views
No problem. *NM* - 15/02/2010 09:05:11 PM 264 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM 761 Views
Re: The point was that Rand needed the division. - 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM 693 Views
small disagreement - 07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM 636 Views
Re: small disagreement - 08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM 569 Views
Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices - 15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM 656 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 10:42:27 PM 604 Views
These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. - 08/02/2010 04:50:11 AM 783 Views
Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. - 08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM 727 Views
For that matter, what is the point of Andor? - 08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM 692 Views
Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor? - 08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM 647 Views
Especially true if - 08/02/2010 07:16:04 PM 604 Views
But Tar Valon is critical too. - 08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM 657 Views
Really? - 10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM 572 Views
Three women in a boat... - 10/02/2010 09:12:41 PM 614 Views
Nothing is ever given as a location for that boat that I recall. - 11/02/2010 11:54:39 PM 563 Views
So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM 699 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM 737 Views
In this, I agree with Fionwe. - 13/02/2010 10:31:07 AM 583 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM 735 Views
Some good points, but I still disagree. - 15/02/2010 06:30:50 PM 627 Views
- 15/02/2010 10:08:48 PM 697 Views
my thoughts - 09/02/2010 12:58:30 PM 803 Views
Belief and order give strength. - 10/02/2010 11:20:01 PM 633 Views
To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin. - 17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM 601 Views
I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". - 17/02/2010 06:07:25 PM 567 Views
Re: I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". - 22/02/2010 11:05:44 PM 625 Views
To unite the Tower under competent leadership, of course. - 23/02/2010 04:55:02 AM 1076 Views
Does a main plotline HAVE to help defeat the DO? - 26/02/2010 04:11:30 PM 749 Views

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