Active Users:432 Time:18/09/2025 10:39:02 PM
That is a Wise One approach. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 04:43:53 PM
After all, how many people would forgive a friend who basically sent thugs to rape her, only stopping the scene when she had to beg for it, then had absolutely no regret whatsoever about it?


I have to point out that this is a Wise One teaching method. When Egwene was chastised by one of them during one of her unsanctioned meetings with Nynaeve and Elayne in "The Shadow Rising", she was told that "a harsh lesson is best". Each of the Wise Ones, if you recall, recalls scenes where another Wise One had to treat them extremely roughly in order to impart a subject lesson.

In fact, I find it odd that this scene is recalled by critics so vividly when they forget that Nynaeve and Elayne's lack of this lesson in being more careful is what got both of them into trouble twice: Once when Elayne was almost killed when she was hit on the head with a cudgel by a pick pocket and again when Moghedien was able to track them when they momentarily dropped their cover. This same lesson was imparted much more terribly when Nynaeve was too hasty in hunting the Forsaken, and nearly cost Birgitte her life/existence.

Hate the need for the lesson, not the teacher. Better in the world of dreams by a friend where the memory can be imparted without the damage, then in T'A'R by an enemy or the real world. Plus, Nynaeve remembers this scene with no rancor, proving that she did need the lesson in order to develop further. No reason, IMHO, to act angry on her behalf when she herself did not feel angry over it.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
Reply to message
There is not enough Egwene hate. Three days without ANY is too long. - 02/09/2009 12:05:29 AM 3300 Views
What I like about Egwene al'Vere - 02/09/2009 02:52:54 AM 1848 Views
Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 02/09/2009 05:23:24 AM 1352 Views
Re: Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 02/09/2009 06:38:55 AM 1346 Views
Re: Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 03/09/2009 02:48:58 AM 1263 Views
Re: Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 03/09/2009 05:34:35 AM 1227 Views
Re: Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 02/09/2009 04:42:43 PM 1240 Views
Re: Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 02/09/2009 04:50:12 PM 1199 Views
Re: Her capabilty to love is astonishing. - 02/09/2009 04:54:43 PM 1086 Views
I take objection to Mat. - 03/09/2009 02:34:37 AM 1224 Views
I don't really agree - 03/09/2009 05:13:46 AM 1184 Views
not a wish - 03/09/2009 01:30:30 PM 1150 Views
Re: not a wish - 03/09/2009 04:42:53 PM 1162 Views
Re: not a wish - 03/09/2009 05:01:33 PM 1322 Views
I think you're being a bit unfair - 04/09/2009 12:50:19 AM 1256 Views
Bah... here's my version - 02/09/2009 04:40:00 PM 1401 Views
Re: Bah... here's my version - 02/09/2009 07:20:21 PM 1370 Views
I'll dispute #2 and #4 - 02/09/2009 09:36:55 PM 1257 Views
OK - 02/09/2009 10:10:26 PM 1082 Views
Re: OK - 03/09/2009 05:10:46 AM 1120 Views
Re: OK - 03/09/2009 04:12:07 PM 1163 Views
Yes, I have always wondered about that. - 03/09/2009 08:31:43 AM 1080 Views
Re: Bah... here's my version - 03/09/2009 02:22:24 AM 1125 Views
Rand had to do the same thing, though. - 03/09/2009 04:14:22 PM 1316 Views
Bah right back. - 04/09/2009 11:54:30 PM 1477 Views
Re: Bah right back. - 05/09/2009 03:04:09 PM 1174 Views
Ah, just like the good ol' days - 02/09/2009 07:31:36 PM 1127 Views
Hear, hear! *NM* - 02/09/2009 09:37:43 PM 524 Views
... - 02/09/2009 09:37:50 PM 1173 Views
Now you just need your 35 part series on her... - 03/09/2009 02:45:16 AM 1371 Views
That is a Wise One approach. - 03/09/2009 04:43:53 PM 1195 Views
So what? - 04/09/2009 11:30:28 PM 1267 Views
Re: Now you just need your 35 part series on her... - 03/09/2009 09:07:22 PM 1238 Views
Why do you hate me so much? *NM* - 04/09/2009 09:40:34 PM 567 Views
Enough... please - 01/11/2009 01:13:15 PM 1085 Views

Reply to Message