Active Users:292 Time:04/05/2024 03:29:10 AM
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?


That's what I always figured - Kari Al'Thor became a Darkfriend (probably why she died so young). We have seen decent people turn to the dark out of despair (Ingtar) or blackmail (Verin), without becoming evil necessarily. I suspect she was told that her son would be safe if she turned.

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?


I don't think so. Initially we see Egwene (and Elayne?) in that scene too. When Rand claims it's not real, their images disappear, but Kari remains, and both she and Ba'alzamon indicate she is now his. Rand destroys her with what appears to be balefire, so I assume he manages to free her soul from the Dark in this way, especially as she then thanks him.
Reply to message
Kari al' Thor - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1153 Views
I always figured..... - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 768 Views
Re: I always figured..... - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 638 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1048 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 586 Views
Well... - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 608 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 711 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 611 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 524 Views
Nice... but - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 527 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 507 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 593 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 235 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 634 Views
While you're probably right... - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 550 Views
Re: While you're probably right... - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 557 Views
Not everything got tweaked... - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 490 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 568 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 496 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 578 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 512 Views
- 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 483 Views
Re: - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 590 Views

Reply to Message