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Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?


That's what I always figured - Kari Al'Thor became a Darkfriend (probably why she died so young). We have seen decent people turn to the dark out of despair (Ingtar) or blackmail (Verin), without becoming evil necessarily. I suspect she was told that her son would be safe if she turned.

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?


I don't think so. Initially we see Egwene (and Elayne?) in that scene too. When Rand claims it's not real, their images disappear, but Kari remains, and both she and Ba'alzamon indicate she is now his. Rand destroys her with what appears to be balefire, so I assume he manages to free her soul from the Dark in this way, especially as she then thanks him.
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1541 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 1176 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 1014 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1474 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 968 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 933 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 1093 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 1032 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 891 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 877 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 880 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 950 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 380 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 983 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 930 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 954 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 891 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 968 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 831 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 885 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 945 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 869 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 826 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 943 Views
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