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Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?


That's what I always figured - Kari Al'Thor became a Darkfriend (probably why she died so young). We have seen decent people turn to the dark out of despair (Ingtar) or blackmail (Verin), without becoming evil necessarily. I suspect she was told that her son would be safe if she turned.

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?


I don't think so. Initially we see Egwene (and Elayne?) in that scene too. When Rand claims it's not real, their images disappear, but Kari remains, and both she and Ba'alzamon indicate she is now his. Rand destroys her with what appears to be balefire, so I assume he manages to free her soul from the Dark in this way, especially as she then thanks him.
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1342 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 972 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 832 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1232 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 765 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 778 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 884 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 810 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 710 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 701 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 703 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 776 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 309 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 814 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 750 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 752 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 679 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 790 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 660 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 705 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 766 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 688 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 670 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 755 Views
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