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Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM
Essentially, he's saying that the main characters have never had to make any real difficult or morally ambiguous choices.

Rand has never had to overthrow an otherwise good man for not joining him (the nobles are generally pictured as worthless), Egwene didn't have to actually war against the tower, or deal with Elaida, and so on. Everyone (for the most part) manages to come out of their trials squeaky-clean.


Hmm.

The "unpleasantness" after the Aiel War might qualify for this. We still don't know everything that happened, there. Black Ajah, secret killings, and more. There might have been a group of Aes Sedai that were pretty brutal in trying to figure out what the BA was up to.

Perrin allowing the Seancean to collar the Shaido Wise Ones could be a big one, although it's mostly been glossed over.

Rand's balefiring of Graendal's keep? Could be, but it IS one of the Forsaken...

Mat leaving enemy soldiers to die, instead of offering aid? Eh.

Yeah, I see what you mean. None of these are really in the category of what you were saying.
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Did the characters come too easily to power? Cannoli - 16/03/2010 11:37:31 PM 2005 Views
hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* Kieran - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 436 Views
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Unfortunately, no. Cannoli - 31/03/2010 10:23:58 AM 934 Views
Re: Unfortunately, no. orius - 02/04/2010 07:54:10 AM 760 Views
All the way through, up to ripping her self-delusional assessments of her "achievements" in KoD Cannoli - 02/04/2010 09:27:54 PM 837 Views
A shame I missed it, then orius - 04/04/2010 08:55:40 AM 830 Views
Re: A shame I missed it, then xero_space - 10/04/2010 08:17:38 AM 808 Views
Cliffs notes anyone? *NM* Narg - 17/03/2010 05:31:02 AM 1538 Views
TLDR *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 625 Views
Trolloc luRns da Reeading? jiggy - 17/03/2010 08:27:23 AM 1069 Views
Too long, didnt read *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 384 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 403 Views
*NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 411 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Underwood - 17/03/2010 01:38:02 PM 940 Views
Thank you *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 488 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. Ryan - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 889 Views
I did read it and it was good dadof5 - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 817 Views
I agree... *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 427 Views
That depends on certain interpretations... Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM 1045 Views
Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:49:55 PM 924 Views
Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM 874 Views
I agree Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM 996 Views
Strong vs. Hard in other words ajfurst - 19/03/2010 05:10:41 AM 868 Views
Loooong *NM* Sidious - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 460 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 782 Views
I usually read Cannoli's epic-length posts... Myrdhyn - 17/03/2010 04:08:33 PM 933 Views
Ha! Imagine if I didn't double-space the paragraphs. That is a fairly new practice on my part. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:36:13 PM 439 Views
I'd suggest you had more paragraphs......with a lot of spacing..... *NM* car'a'aman - 19/03/2010 04:42:05 AM 463 Views
Oh I know. I've been lurking here/wotmania for a VERY long time. Myrdhyn - 22/03/2010 01:31:30 PM 858 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. beetnemesis - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 877 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. newyorkersedai - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 1001 Views
Oh and I forgot to add newyorkersedai - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 912 Views
I would say those cases are both examples of aknowledging their own limitations and priorities Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:02:13 PM 976 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 895 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:10:22 PM 910 Views
I was more focussed on the cost of GETTING power, not the prices of discharging it responsibly Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:27:18 PM 1021 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis redqueen - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 951 Views
Thanks. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 459 Views
While most of this is true... fionwe1987 - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 806 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. Cannoli - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 833 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? fionwe1987 - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 793 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman Cannoli - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 978 Views
Re: The To'Raken Lord Haart - 06/04/2010 06:00:07 AM 862 Views
Re: The To'Raken Cannoli - 07/04/2010 11:31:47 PM 1071 Views
Re: The To'Raken orius - 09/04/2010 06:22:38 AM 793 Views
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