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Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... Macharius Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM
It's also possible that Rand's new understanding of souls having more chances at life will better equip him to deal with making such large sacrifices... "I'm sorry, but it's necessary so that your soul will be able to live again in later lives".

You say that Rand needs to cause more destruction. I agree and think there needs to be a huge sacrifice.

Lets assume this sacrifice HAS to be payed, there's no way to sidestep it. (a theme strongly implied in the prophesies)

My opinion is this. The earlier 'dark' Rand would have no problems sacrificing as many as he needed to (although it would probably make him go more down the path of darkness and insanity). But the new 'enlightened' Rand may have a hard time. Imagine a situation where the 'good' Rand HAS to sacrifice people or give up the fight. Since we have assumed this should happen, this WILL happen eventually. At this point Rand is going to have a much much harder time deciding. The two possible logical results would be that Rand either sacrifices ad reverts back to some semblance of the 'dark' Rand, or he doesn't do anything and fatally compromises the battle at TG. In this case the hard decisions are still in the future and Rand was brought to this position so that he will be 'weak' at that point.

But I have the dirty feeling that RJ is going to 'cheat' and provide a way out of this sacrifice.....So ya, if RJ does cheat, then it seems like its been way too easy for Rand.
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Did the characters come too easily to power? Cannoli - 16/03/2010 11:37:31 PM 1778 Views
hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* Kieran - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 366 Views
Yes, and for Rand at least IMO, playing nice has cost dearly ajfurst - 17/03/2010 04:59:32 AM 822 Views
Not necessarily Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:17:10 PM 768 Views
Good post. xero_space - 27/03/2010 01:43:24 PM 631 Views
Unfortunately, no. Cannoli - 31/03/2010 10:23:58 AM 740 Views
Re: Unfortunately, no. orius - 02/04/2010 07:54:10 AM 577 Views
All the way through, up to ripping her self-delusional assessments of her "achievements" in KoD Cannoli - 02/04/2010 09:27:54 PM 646 Views
A shame I missed it, then orius - 04/04/2010 08:55:40 AM 643 Views
Re: A shame I missed it, then xero_space - 10/04/2010 08:17:38 AM 607 Views
Cliffs notes anyone? *NM* Narg - 17/03/2010 05:31:02 AM 1445 Views
TLDR *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 528 Views
Trolloc luRns da Reeading? jiggy - 17/03/2010 08:27:23 AM 765 Views
Too long, didnt read *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 309 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 331 Views
*NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 340 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Underwood - 17/03/2010 01:38:02 PM 757 Views
Thank you *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 422 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. Ryan - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 705 Views
I did read it and it was good dadof5 - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 640 Views
I agree... *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 357 Views
That depends on certain interpretations... Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM 851 Views
Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:49:55 PM 717 Views
Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM 687 Views
I agree Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM 782 Views
Strong vs. Hard in other words ajfurst - 19/03/2010 05:10:41 AM 621 Views
Loooong *NM* Sidious - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 375 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 619 Views
I usually read Cannoli's epic-length posts... Myrdhyn - 17/03/2010 04:08:33 PM 747 Views
Ha! Imagine if I didn't double-space the paragraphs. That is a fairly new practice on my part. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:36:13 PM 370 Views
I'd suggest you had more paragraphs......with a lot of spacing..... *NM* car'a'aman - 19/03/2010 04:42:05 AM 385 Views
Oh I know. I've been lurking here/wotmania for a VERY long time. Myrdhyn - 22/03/2010 01:31:30 PM 678 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. beetnemesis - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 703 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. newyorkersedai - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 829 Views
Oh and I forgot to add newyorkersedai - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 733 Views
I would say those cases are both examples of aknowledging their own limitations and priorities Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:02:13 PM 783 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 710 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:10:22 PM 715 Views
I was more focussed on the cost of GETTING power, not the prices of discharging it responsibly Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:27:18 PM 789 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis redqueen - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 704 Views
Thanks. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 388 Views
While most of this is true... fionwe1987 - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 614 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. Cannoli - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 664 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? fionwe1987 - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 632 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman Cannoli - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 765 Views
Re: The To'Raken Lord Haart - 06/04/2010 06:00:07 AM 670 Views
Re: The To'Raken Cannoli - 07/04/2010 11:31:47 PM 889 Views
Re: The To'Raken orius - 09/04/2010 06:22:38 AM 608 Views
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