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Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Macharius Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 06:10:22 PM
I don't disagree with the primary thesis, merely the outcomes for some of the characters: notably Egwene and Elayne. I think that both will have a difficult time during their tenure in positions of power because as compromise candidates, neither has a strong base of support right now or for a long time to come.

Elayne is faced with all of the currently-powerful Heads of House (the ones that actually matter) virtually united against her in mistrust and the knowledge that she's not beholden to them; she was acknowledged Queen as a matter of expedience and compromise, not mutual back-scratching, and will be resented for it.

Egwene will not be able to rub the Aes Sedai's face in the breaking of the Tower for the next three centuries. As the twice-compomise candidate, she will be forever unable to rely on any particular Ajah's support in the Hall regardless of whether or not the various Sitters went to Salidar, stayed in the Tower, or held themselves apart. The third group especially will be trouble for her, since she has nothing to threaten or punish them with. While Egwene has been miraculously adept at playing parties off each other, it's only a matter of time til the heads of the Ajahs and the Sitters catch on.

While Egwene and Elayne may not have bad to break some skulls during their rise to power, their early reigns will be characterized the same way as how they came by their positions: compromise and an inability to deal from a position of strength. While that can change over time (the younger Heads of House growing up, the younger Initiates/Accepted obtaining the shawl and acquiescing out of teen-hero-idolization, etc) none of that will be in time for Tarmon Gai'don.
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hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 529 Views
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TLDR *NM* - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 734 Views
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*NM* - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 520 Views
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Thank you *NM* - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 577 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 1169 Views
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I agree... *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 547 Views
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Loooong *NM* - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 572 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 998 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 1090 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 1267 Views
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Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 1111 Views
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Thanks. *NM* - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 570 Views
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