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Re: Men, Women, and That Stuff Between Your Toes Sigma - 27/01/2003 10:45:21 PM

SECONDLY: Observing commercials lately, and reading something somewhere (I forget exactly what and/or where), it seems apparent to me that the pendulum of gender discrimination in the media has swung to the other side. Once upon a time we belittled females in several commercials. This was wrong, undoubtedly. Yet in today's "enlightened" society, we still need to make fun of someone to sell something. We can't make fun of women anymore (rightfully so), but ... we can, it seems, make fun of men. Look at some commercials the next time you watch TV. A fair number of them portray the male as the dumb one. If it were women being portrayed this way in many commercials, you can bet there would be a fuss thrown ... so why is the opposite any better?

The opposite isn't any better. It is terrible that men have begun to be the butt of many jokes in the last decade or so. No steriotype is good, especially untrue ones, but this present situation is still better than the previous one. Hopefully either people will stop placing untrue and unfair steriotypes on men, or men will start to complain, and everyone will be treated equally.

SIXTH AND LASTLY: Has anyone else noticed this trend among musicians? When it is a band with a male lead singer, the band usually is named so that the lead dude isn't put front and center, and everyone gets credit (Our Lady Peace, Nickelback, Creed, Counting Crows, Everclear, Smashing Pumpkins, Barenaked Ladies, Goo Goo Dolls, The Calling, Metallica ... the list goes on and on). There are exceptions, such as Enrique Inglacias and Bryan Adams, and some bands are named after the lead guy (Dave Matthews Band, for example), but generally the trend holds true.

However, when we look at bands where a female is the lead singer, the opposite seems true. Sarah McLachlan, Avril Lavigne, Sheryl Crow, Celine Dion, Madonna, Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, Shania Twain, again the list goes on. There are once again exceptions (No Doubt, Dixie Chicks, Destiny's Child, for example), but ... does anyone else see the pattern here? Are men more willing to remain anonymous and give credit to everyone in the band, while women are not? Do women change band members all the time and thus not name the band as a whole? Are women just glory-hogs? This is not to criticize anyone ... I just find the difference interesting.

Never noticed, but that's interesting.

So ... what do you think of this? Personally, I think the woman got what she deserves, and has no reason to complain about it. If a man did the same thing, the same would be done to him, made naked in view of the other prisoners (both male AND female, remember). Would he have sued? I don't know; but it's likely that this situation has happened before, since there is a procedure for it, and I've never heard of any legal action resulting from it (at least not any successful legal action; the procedures are still in place, right?). Should women be treated differently than men in such situations? Wouldn't this be discrimination, the very thing feminists fought against for so long? Do women only want to be equal in things that are to their benefit, but not equal in anything else?

She did get what she deserved. If the male was nutty enough (as we can assume the women was) he probably would have sued... I am sure that women do want to be equal mainly in things that benefit them, but also understand (most of them) that they should be equal in the good and the bad. There are of coarse extremists, but that is true in every situation.

Sigma of Taosap.

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