I hope that you got to "God Emperor of Dune" - that whole book was about humanity re-finding it's purpose. In many ways, the whole problem with human civilization during "Dune" and "Dune Messiah" was that it was clumped in a narrow amount of space, too afraid to venture out and expand throughout the universe.
Darwi Odrade is my favorite character because she realized this and is a more reliable narrator for the reader to realize what the Kwisatz Haderach was supposed to do and what the God Emperor was trying to accomplish. By the time you get to her as a character, the universe that humanity inhabited was a very different place where one person, civilization or fatal mistake couldn't annihilate the species.
Darwi Odrade is my favorite character because she realized this and is a more reliable narrator for the reader to realize what the Kwisatz Haderach was supposed to do and what the God Emperor was trying to accomplish. By the time you get to her as a character, the universe that humanity inhabited was a very different place where one person, civilization or fatal mistake couldn't annihilate the species.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
Frank Herbert, Dune Chronicles (series reviews within)
- 16/04/2010 04:11:40 AM
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- 17/04/2010 02:33:38 PM
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Not all themes are intended by the author. That doesn't mean they aren't there.
- 17/04/2010 06:54:14 PM
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- 17/04/2010 10:44:18 PM
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I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological"
- 18/04/2010 12:13:14 AM
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Re: I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological"
- 18/04/2010 03:34:33 AM
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Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white?
- 18/04/2010 05:18:07 AM
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Re: Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white?
- 19/04/2010 06:15:26 PM
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That was most of my issue.
- 21/04/2010 12:12:56 AM
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Just because something plays a dominate role doesn't make it a theme
- 21/04/2010 02:09:42 PM
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Thank you for saying concisely the point I have been trying to make. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 06:34:12 PM
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A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present
- 21/04/2010 11:21:38 PM
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- 22/04/2010 04:58:01 AM
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- 22/04/2010 04:08:28 PM
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Texts have different interpretations and Readers emphasize different aspects
- 22/04/2010 09:28:05 PM
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- 23/04/2010 05:22:22 PM
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Re: Just because something plays a dominate role doesn't make it a theme
- 29/04/2010 11:36:45 PM
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Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic.
- 19/04/2010 07:52:27 PM
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Re: Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic.
- 20/04/2010 07:04:40 PM
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Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all.
- 21/04/2010 01:46:50 AM
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- 21/04/2010 06:23:24 PM
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People who see this as an ecological book are missing the point of the book
- 16/04/2010 06:28:40 PM
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Books can have more than one theme. Great books almost always do. *NM*
- 16/04/2010 07:15:11 PM
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I agree with that I just never really the ecological theme to Dune
- 16/04/2010 10:12:26 PM
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There are several points to the book/series
- 17/04/2010 12:11:38 AM
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Everyone get something different from a book
- 19/04/2010 07:01:51 PM
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I believe those themes become more pronounced later in the series
- 20/04/2010 10:09:36 PM
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I remember having hated every single character of this book. Some random thoughts
- 17/04/2010 05:08:25 PM
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Well, I enjoyed more of the characters this time around, if that helps
- 18/04/2010 12:14:43 AM
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I hope you got to Darwi Odrade
- 21/04/2010 03:44:27 PM
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Re: Frank Herbert, Dune
- 17/04/2010 08:05:16 PM
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I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom 
- 17/04/2010 10:22:27 PM
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Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom
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Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom
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Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom
- 22/04/2010 04:31:26 AM
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- 22/04/2010 04:31:26 AM
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I thought all of Dune had begun as a serial in a SF magazine. *NM*
- 22/04/2010 01:58:22 PM
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Dune Messiah (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read)
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- 21/04/2010 03:33:46 PM
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I didn't see that in Alia
- 21/04/2010 11:27:22 PM
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There were a few scenes displaying Alia's abilities/mindset. (spoilers)
- 22/04/2010 03:54:32 PM
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OK, that makes a bit more sense, as I wasn't for sure what you were arguing at first
- 22/04/2010 09:14:46 PM
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One of my favorite series!
- 21/04/2010 03:30:57 PM
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I didn't "miss it" as much as I chose to deemphasize it
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- 22/04/2010 04:02:26 PM
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Heretics of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read)
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- 29/04/2010 03:26:28 PM
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