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His style doesn't appeal to me as much, unfortunately Larry Send a noteboard - 22/04/2010 09:17:21 PM
I like his style - it reminds me of a symphony, especially Gustav Holsts' the planets. Each thought and POV occurs in a greater context, but each instrument contributes to this meta-level context.

It's not as jarring as "One POV per character per chapter" or some other similarly straight-forward arrangements.

I especially appreciate this with characters that seem so incredibly MINOR but whose contributions become amazingly important in the fullness of time in future volumes, such as Reverend Mother Tertius Eileen Anteac or Sister Quintinius Violet Chenoeh.

This series taught me that sci-fi can be more than just sword and sorcery shlock fiction.


However, I won't argue that the overall effect is to create a story that despite its annoying mechanical elements is drawing me in more and more. Partway into God-Emperor of Dune and I am reminded why I had decided that one might have been co-equal at least to the first in terms of interesting motifs.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Frank Herbert, Dune Chronicles (series reviews within) Larry - 16/04/2010 04:11:40 AM 2036 Views
Re: Frank Herbert, Dune HyogaRott - 16/04/2010 06:09:49 PM 1141 Views
Re: Frank Herbert, Dune Larry - 17/04/2010 12:08:06 AM 1338 Views
Re: Frank Herbert, Dune HyogaRott - 17/04/2010 02:33:38 PM 1266 Views
Not all themes are intended by the author. That doesn't mean they aren't there. lord-of-shadow - 17/04/2010 06:54:14 PM 1309 Views
Re: Not all themes are intended by the author. That doesn't mean they aren't there. HyogaRott - 17/04/2010 10:44:18 PM 1143 Views
I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological" Larry - 18/04/2010 12:13:14 AM 1264 Views
Re: I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological" HyogaRott - 18/04/2010 03:34:33 AM 1315 Views
Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white? Chas - 18/04/2010 05:18:07 AM 1114 Views
Re: Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white? HyogaRott - 19/04/2010 06:15:26 PM 1176 Views
That was most of my issue. Chas - 21/04/2010 12:12:56 AM 1041 Views
Re: That was most of my issue. HyogaRott - 21/04/2010 06:33:14 PM 997 Views
Re: That was most of my issue. Chas - 29/04/2010 11:38:26 PM 978 Views
Just because something plays a dominate role doesn't make it a theme random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:09:42 PM 1124 Views
Thank you for saying concisely the point I have been trying to make. *NM* HyogaRott - 21/04/2010 06:34:12 PM 476 Views
A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present Larry - 21/04/2010 11:21:38 PM 1051 Views
Re: A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present DomA - 22/04/2010 04:58:01 AM 1029 Views
Good points Larry - 22/04/2010 09:19:45 PM 1086 Views
Re: Good points DomA - 22/04/2010 10:55:21 PM 1026 Views
when you call it human ecology I come much closer to agreeing random thoughts - 22/04/2010 02:16:58 PM 1039 Views
Re: A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present HyogaRott - 22/04/2010 04:08:28 PM 972 Views
Texts have different interpretations and Readers emphasize different aspects Larry - 22/04/2010 09:28:05 PM 1094 Views
Re: Texts have different interpretations and Readers emphasize different aspects HyogaRott - 23/04/2010 05:22:22 PM 1004 Views
Re: Just because something plays a dominate role doesn't make it a theme Chas - 29/04/2010 11:36:45 PM 1101 Views
Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic. Ghavrel - 19/04/2010 07:52:27 PM 1143 Views
Re: Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic. HyogaRott - 20/04/2010 07:04:40 PM 1010 Views
You're not using "archaic" correctly Larry - 20/04/2010 10:07:31 PM 1004 Views
Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 01:46:50 AM 915 Views
doesn't that regulate the point down to interesting trivia? random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:36:38 PM 1058 Views
Re: Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all. HyogaRott - 21/04/2010 06:23:24 PM 1152 Views
Funny the things people focus on Larry - 21/04/2010 11:24:59 PM 1024 Views
Re: Funny the things people focus on HyogaRott - 23/04/2010 05:28:54 PM 1020 Views
People who see this as an ecological book are missing the point of the book random thoughts - 16/04/2010 06:28:40 PM 1526 Views
Books can have more than one theme. Great books almost always do. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/04/2010 07:15:11 PM 503 Views
I agree with that I just never really the ecological theme to Dune random thoughts - 16/04/2010 10:12:26 PM 1203 Views
Ecology goes more than one way Larry - 17/04/2010 12:12:45 AM 1155 Views
There are several points to the book/series Larry - 17/04/2010 12:11:38 AM 1236 Views
Everyone get something different from a book random thoughts - 19/04/2010 07:01:51 PM 1416 Views
I believe those themes become more pronounced later in the series Larry - 20/04/2010 10:09:36 PM 1168 Views
I remember having hated every single character of this book. Some random thoughts Lordling - 17/04/2010 05:08:25 PM 1345 Views
Well, I enjoyed more of the characters this time around, if that helps Larry - 18/04/2010 12:14:43 AM 1230 Views
I hope you got to Darwi Odrade RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/04/2010 03:44:27 PM 1044 Views
Re: Frank Herbert, Dune DomA - 17/04/2010 08:05:16 PM 1626 Views
I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom Larry - 17/04/2010 10:22:27 PM 1428 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom DomA - 18/04/2010 04:38:10 AM 1368 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom Macharius - 19/04/2010 04:04:43 AM 1283 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom DomA - 22/04/2010 04:31:26 AM 1046 Views
I thought all of Dune had begun as a serial in a SF magazine. *NM* Macharius - 22/04/2010 01:58:22 PM 450 Views
And Dune Messiah as well was serialized at first, in Galaxy *NM* Larry - 22/04/2010 09:31:54 PM 455 Views
Dune Messiah (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) Larry - 19/04/2010 08:42:18 AM 1336 Views
Re: Dune Messiah (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/04/2010 03:33:46 PM 1009 Views
I didn't see that in Alia Larry - 21/04/2010 11:27:22 PM 947 Views
There were a few scenes displaying Alia's abilities/mindset. (spoilers) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 03:54:32 PM 949 Views
OK, that makes a bit more sense, as I wasn't for sure what you were arguing at first Larry - 22/04/2010 09:14:46 PM 1066 Views
One of my favorite series! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/04/2010 03:30:57 PM 955 Views
I didn't "miss it" as much as I chose to deemphasize it Larry - 21/04/2010 11:29:50 PM 883 Views
Re: I didn't "miss it" as much as I chose to deemphasize it RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 04:02:26 PM 986 Views
His style doesn't appeal to me as much, unfortunately Larry - 22/04/2010 09:17:21 PM 907 Views
You might want to track down his short stories one day... DomA - 23/04/2010 02:06:09 PM 1102 Views
Children of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) Larry - 22/04/2010 06:47:04 AM 1082 Views
See...I think I made a mistake in my reading of Dune Brian - 22/04/2010 07:26:28 AM 1060 Views
Depends Larry - 22/04/2010 08:01:39 AM 947 Views
Re: Depends Brian - 22/04/2010 11:12:15 PM 1313 Views
read something else random thoughts - 23/04/2010 07:49:34 PM 950 Views
LA Times article on Dune (4/18/2010) Larry - 23/04/2010 10:59:00 AM 894 Views
God Emperor of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) Larry - 25/04/2010 02:03:37 AM 1194 Views
Heretics of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) Larry - 28/04/2010 06:02:54 AM 926 Views
Re: Heretics of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) DomA - 29/04/2010 03:26:28 PM 1008 Views
I read the wiki synopses of those two books Larry - 29/04/2010 09:44:07 PM 940 Views
Re: I read the wiki synopses of those two books DomA - 10/05/2010 04:10:49 AM 1310 Views
Chapterhouse: Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) Larry - 30/04/2010 02:31:10 PM 1114 Views
Re: Chapterhouse: Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) DomA - 10/05/2010 01:24:33 AM 1148 Views
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