Agree. She gave us enough to make it interesting.
StormCrow Send a noteboard - 12/07/2010 06:45:46 PM
Since this is a children's book, the characters are, at this stage, very black and white. The Dursley's have no redeeming features at all, and Harry is very obviously written to garner sympathy. That said, I don't find that offputting. There's enough humour in her descriptions to prevent the characterisation from becoming heavy handed.
Love that she uses the same things to appeal to boys and girls. Best example of this is Harry's room under the stairs. He's used to spiders, which would make the girls pity him because they think spiders are horrible, and pity's a great way to get little girls to like Harry. Whereas the boys will love that he's not scared of the spiders, which makes up for the fact that he's a dinky little wimpy thing. That lack of fear of the horrible hairy things will help boys to respect him.
And before you tell me off for thinking in such glaring steroetypes: that really is how little girls and boys are. I know. I have loads of cousins around the target age of these books when they came out. That's pretty much how they react to things like that.
I like also that Rowling gives something to the adults as well. The Dursleys are such social climbers, proper unpleasant middle class, and that would make a lot of grown ups chuckle a wee bit. Underneath it, though, you can see that Aunt Petunia at least does properly love her son, revolting ball of lard that he is. There's a little shade of grey there for older readers to appreciate.
As for the wizarding types: Dumbledore's very quickly set as an eccentric with his love of sweets, but we're also introduced to his wisdom. McGonagall is clearly defined as the strong, steady, somewhat tartarish teacher, and Hagrid is the loveable scruff. Simple but effective.
Love that she uses the same things to appeal to boys and girls. Best example of this is Harry's room under the stairs. He's used to spiders, which would make the girls pity him because they think spiders are horrible, and pity's a great way to get little girls to like Harry. Whereas the boys will love that he's not scared of the spiders, which makes up for the fact that he's a dinky little wimpy thing. That lack of fear of the horrible hairy things will help boys to respect him.
And before you tell me off for thinking in such glaring steroetypes: that really is how little girls and boys are. I know. I have loads of cousins around the target age of these books when they came out. That's pretty much how they react to things like that.

I like also that Rowling gives something to the adults as well. The Dursleys are such social climbers, proper unpleasant middle class, and that would make a lot of grown ups chuckle a wee bit. Underneath it, though, you can see that Aunt Petunia at least does properly love her son, revolting ball of lard that he is. There's a little shade of grey there for older readers to appreciate.
As for the wizarding types: Dumbledore's very quickly set as an eccentric with his love of sweets, but we're also introduced to his wisdom. McGonagall is clearly defined as the strong, steady, somewhat tartarish teacher, and Hagrid is the loveable scruff. Simple but effective.
Since it was a multi-volume work with time to expand and develop the characters, I didn't expect much here. Also, since this one seems aimed at a younger audience, she kept it simple enough for the kids to understand. Grey area is tough with children, so she played this right for her primary readers.
Harry Potter Re-read: The Philosopher's Stone - Final section underway! (& next book plans)
- 12/07/2010 08:27:51 AM
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Chapters 1-3: Introducing Harry
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Characterisation *NM*
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My thoughts, such as they are.
- 12/07/2010 04:09:55 PM
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Agree. She gave us enough to make it interesting.
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Re: My thoughts, such as they are. *spoilers*
- 12/07/2010 07:43:49 PM
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Writing style *NM*
- 12/07/2010 08:29:18 AM
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It is very clear it is a children's book at this time
- 12/07/2010 07:18:14 PM
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Vernon's slow descent into madness is great.
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Early themes *NM*
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Chapters 4-10: Making Friends at Hogwarts *NM*
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Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends. *NM*
- 14/07/2010 08:29:38 AM
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I'd forgotten how annoying Hermione was
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Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though.
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Yes and, I think, this may be another candidate for early themes (from above)
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Re: Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends.
- 14/07/2010 04:22:54 PM
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Agree. I loved the instant tension between Harry and Malfoy and with Harry and Snape too.
- 14/07/2010 05:03:20 PM
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Some thoughts before I run off to the library again
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It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view.
- 26/07/2010 03:08:38 PM
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Re: It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view.
- 26/07/2010 03:18:02 PM
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What about the magic?
- 14/07/2010 08:58:51 AM
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The magic wasnt really developed at this point
- 14/07/2010 02:13:41 PM
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Re: The magic wasnt really developed at this point
- 14/07/2010 08:53:08 PM
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I think
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Diagon Alley - Olivander's Foreshadowing
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I really need a remembrall.
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But it doesn't tell you what you've forgotten!
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Chapters 11-17: Harry the Hero *NM*
- 12/07/2010 08:30:29 AM
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What'd you think of the ending? *NM*
- 15/07/2010 05:21:38 PM
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Two separate things:
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Lovely
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Haha
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Re: Haha
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But I thought all girls were made of sugar and spice and everything nice?
- 15/07/2010 09:26:53 PM
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Oh, we are.
- 15/07/2010 09:35:17 PM
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Honestly, dumbledore is a bit of an ass...
- 15/07/2010 10:48:32 PM
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The decades of manipulation of a child doesn't bother you, but the House Cup does?
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- 15/07/2010 11:37:54 PM
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Overall thoughts for the book
- 12/07/2010 08:31:37 AM
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Foreshadowing and setting up the future
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Harry's anger management issues?
- 12/07/2010 07:14:58 PM
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Heh.
- 12/07/2010 07:40:40 PM
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Nah, not deliberate.
- 12/07/2010 09:14:20 PM
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Re: Nah, not deliberate.
- 12/07/2010 09:55:32 PM
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I noticed a lot of this.
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Re: I noticed a lot of this.
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Re: I noticed a lot of this.
- 12/07/2010 07:45:32 PM
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On Ginny:
- 12/07/2010 10:36:47 PM
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This was my interpretation too and why I didn't pay much attention to it at the time. *NM*
- 13/07/2010 02:53:08 PM
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I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times...
- 13/07/2010 04:45:28 AM
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Re: I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times...
- 13/07/2010 08:58:10 AM
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So much (chapters 1-3) *spoilers*
- 12/07/2010 07:35:57 PM
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I missed the school roof thing this time around too! Good catch there. *NM*
- 12/07/2010 09:22:21 PM
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The thing that tipped me off
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Imagine how easy his test would have been if he remembered he'd done it as a child! *NM*
- 13/07/2010 03:20:27 PM
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You have to wonder why Hagrid and Dumbledore didn't suspect the truth about Sirius.
- 26/07/2010 04:04:05 PM
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I re-read a couple weeks ago, and I was highly amused by all the little things she worked in
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Some stuff (chapters 4-11)
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Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11)
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I can answer your consistency question!
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More stuff (chapters 12-17)
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Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12
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What made this book (and the rest of the series) such a success?
- 12/07/2010 08:33:00 AM
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I think it was mostly because it was a simple narrative with an identifiable protagnonist.
- 13/07/2010 11:59:06 PM
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It has tons of things in it that every kid dreams of doing
- 14/07/2010 01:56:05 PM
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It's a simple, well-done little book.
- 12/07/2010 07:46:48 PM
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you don't read instructions, do you?
- 12/07/2010 07:49:24 PM
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When did you pick up this book?
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I was 10.
- 13/07/2010 04:13:44 AM
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Ah book orders...man you just brought back nostalgic memories. I miss being a kid
- 13/07/2010 04:42:12 AM
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1999
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What do you mean by adult version?
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They started publishing copies with 'adult' covers so people wouldn't be caught out reading
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Got a boxed set for Christmas when Order of the Phoenix came out in hardback.
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The first five were out, waited for HBP.
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Very early. Beginning of 1999, so it had just come out in the States. *NM*
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I held out quite awhile because I don't like "fads"
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I did the same thing.
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I would have, if I had known there was hype. I know I would have.
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Aged 13 or 14 - a while before the first movie (which was Christmas 2001). *NM*
- 26/07/2010 04:13:55 PM
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Jesus Christ.
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^That was me. *NM*
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^That was me. *NM*
- 26/07/2010 09:55:49 PM
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Aw. I was just feeling flattered as I didn't think Tor had read that many of my posts.
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Suggestions for the Re-read
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This is my first official time participating and its been fun so far!
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Unfortunately, no. (Silly me, pretending someone's still going to read all my posts...
) *NM*
- 26/07/2010 04:20:35 PM
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) *NM*
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Inconsistencies Re: the Potter's death...
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Because they were tricked? They considered Peter and Sirius to be brothers.
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That's nonsense..
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Take it up with Rowling, since you don't believe me. *NM*
- 16/07/2010 08:19:58 AM
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What's there to believe?
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Peter + Sirius = family. I don't know how to explain it more simply. *NM*
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Re: That's nonsense..
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Also
- 16/07/2010 11:17:51 AM
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Huh?
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But Camilla explained it!
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I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong...
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Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong...
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Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong...
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Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong...
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That bothers me too.
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Re: That bothers me too.
- 18/07/2010 07:20:44 PM
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Again...
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Re: Again...
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Re: Again...
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Re: Again...
- 20/07/2010 04:45:16 PM
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Yet another load of bosh.
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It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do...
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Re: It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do...
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You have to wonder if that's actually true.
- 26/07/2010 04:23:31 PM
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Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house
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Re: Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house
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^ And this, too, was me.
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^ And this, too, was me.
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