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Re: I agree Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 15/07/2010 05:44:41 AM
Do you like it? Does it fit with her universe?

All we saw in this book was swish and flick! Oh and the ever useful alhomora (sp?) The lack of magic fit well in this book as harry is just a beginner. Take for instance the duel Harry almost had with Draco. Ron said they couldn't do anything to each other because they weren't experienced at magic yet. You definitely see a progression from book one to seven.

Also, I find it kinda weird that untrained first years could bypass the magical protections around the sorcerer's stone. I know dumbledore explained that he knew harry would go after the stone but still...


I think the idea there was that powerful protection could not keep Voldemort out -- he has the most power. Therefore the protection must go in a different direction. Also, protective spells do not appear to be a great staple of the HP universe. I'm thinking of the locket protection in book 6, for example.


Dumbledore's protection on the stone was the most powerful. Voldemort would have never cracked it. Indeed, Dumbledore would later go on to tell Harry that very few wizards would have retrieved the stone like Harry did.

I think protection spells are a great staple in in this series. After all, the most powerful protection spell was the one Lily left on Harry when she sacrificed herself for him. This, I believe, is the single most important event in the entire series. It's the foundation, really. Also, Dumbledore uses that sacrifice to secure Harry's safety as long as he resides at Privet Dr.


The protection spells are really important to the story. Especially the more subtle ones like the spell on the stone and Harry's mother's spell.

And really the other spells on the stone had their own use. Voldemort really underestimated his opponets. He saw the other spells and was able to break through and thought "i'm so great they can't keep me out" and probably would never even think to look for the sly spell Dumbledore cast that would really keep him from getting it.


Even if Voldemort knew the spell Dumbledore used, he could still never get it. The only way to get the stone was the way Harry did. You had to want the stone and not use it. Voldemort would never be able to supress that desire.
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Harry Potter Re-read: The Philosopher's Stone - Final section underway! (& next book plans) Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:27:51 AM 3362 Views
Chapters 1-3: Introducing Harry Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:28:49 AM 1802 Views
Characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:02 AM 1034 Views
My thoughts, such as they are. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:09:55 PM 1861 Views
Agree. She gave us enough to make it interesting. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 06:45:46 PM 1816 Views
Re: My thoughts, such as they are. *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:43:49 PM 1795 Views
You hit the nail on the head. Seriana Sedai - 13/07/2010 12:20:19 AM 1754 Views
Re: You hit the nail on the head. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:51:45 AM 1669 Views
Writing style *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1021 Views
A couple of points. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:10:20 PM 1682 Views
It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:18:14 PM 1876 Views
True. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1797 Views
Re: It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Tor - 12/07/2010 09:31:11 PM 2037 Views
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Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:03:26 AM 1848 Views
Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:54:40 AM 1803 Views
Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 01:14:01 PM 1858 Views
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Early themes *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:37 AM 1073 Views
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Me too. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:30:13 PM 1657 Views
Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 04:58:04 PM 1709 Views
Re: Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though. Camilla - 14/07/2010 06:13:13 PM 1719 Views
Yes and, I think, this may be another candidate for early themes (from above) StormCrow - 14/07/2010 07:43:14 PM 1812 Views
Re: Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends. aria - 14/07/2010 04:22:54 PM 1853 Views
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Some thoughts before I run off to the library again Camilla - 14/07/2010 06:11:45 PM 1855 Views
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It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view. Legolas - 26/07/2010 03:08:38 PM 1984 Views
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What about the magic? Rebekah - 14/07/2010 08:58:51 AM 1725 Views
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I know, right! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:41:01 AM 1650 Views
Exactly. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:22:18 PM 1553 Views
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Ah, see nossy - 15/07/2010 03:23:49 PM 1613 Views
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Loved it. StormCrow - 15/07/2010 05:56:06 PM 1703 Views
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Haha Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:16:16 PM 1861 Views
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Oh, we are. Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:35:17 PM 1546 Views
Ah like vodka vs. wine coolers? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:48:26 PM 933 Views
Gin Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:49:33 PM 1660 Views
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The decades of manipulation of a child doesn't bother you, but the House Cup does? *NM* Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 11:37:54 PM 916 Views
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As I indicated below, I had some issues. Nate - 16/07/2010 03:05:05 AM 1858 Views
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Foreshadowing and setting up the future Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1642 Views
Harry's anger management issues? StormCrow - 12/07/2010 07:14:58 PM 1703 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:40:40 PM 1745 Views
Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:14:20 PM 1805 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:55:32 PM 1725 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:02:59 PM 1655 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. Camilla - 13/07/2010 03:04:42 PM 1781 Views
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~smug~ Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:09:15 PM 1717 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:10:41 PM 1957 Views
This response implies the experience of being both?? StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:23:29 PM 1699 Views
On Ginny: Kronin al'Sulc - 12/07/2010 10:36:47 PM 1787 Views
This was my interpretation too and why I didn't pay much attention to it at the time. *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 02:53:08 PM 876 Views
I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:45:28 AM 1969 Views
Re: I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:58:10 AM 1720 Views
So much (chapters 1-3) *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:35:57 PM 1936 Views
Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:38:05 PM 1763 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:39:08 PM 1811 Views
Re: Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:39:53 PM 1618 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:44:16 PM 1517 Views
Re: Hm. Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:41:12 AM 1635 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:55:09 AM 1613 Views
I missed the school roof thing this time around too! Good catch there. *NM* StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 956 Views
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Imagine how easy his test would have been if he remembered he'd done it as a child! *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:20:27 PM 940 Views
You have to wonder why Hagrid and Dumbledore didn't suspect the truth about Sirius. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:04:05 PM 1644 Views
I re-read a couple weeks ago, and I was highly amused by all the little things she worked in nossy - 14/07/2010 04:09:19 AM 1771 Views
Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:18:35 PM 1904 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Deadsy - 14/07/2010 10:30:23 PM 1735 Views
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I can answer your consistency question! Cockatiel of Doom - 15/07/2010 02:35:42 AM 1834 Views
You are a clever cookie. Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:14:25 AM 1698 Views
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Ooh, yes. Cockatiel of Doom - 16/07/2010 12:19:13 AM 1528 Views
More stuff (chapters 12-17) Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:55:34 PM 1592 Views
Re: More stuff (chapters 12-17) Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1651 Views
Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 Cockatiel of Doom - 17/07/2010 04:23:15 PM 1790 Views
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Re: Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 aria - 17/07/2010 07:12:39 PM 1945 Views
I like it. Thank you. Cockatiel of Doom - 20/07/2010 12:53:37 AM 1855 Views
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I have no idea *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:47:58 PM 1856 Views
I agree... StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:19:59 PM 1886 Views
I think it was mostly because it was a simple narrative with an identifiable protagnonist. Chas - 13/07/2010 11:59:06 PM 1794 Views
It has tons of things in it that every kid dreams of doing Deadsy - 14/07/2010 01:56:05 PM 1812 Views
Kid? Camilla - 14/07/2010 02:01:30 PM 1815 Views
so do I. I was just trying to act mature *NM* Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:08:01 PM 1135 Views
Not even just the super stuff Deadsy mentions. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:38:46 PM 1941 Views
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you don't read instructions, do you? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:49:24 PM 1857 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:50:23 PM 1780 Views
Re: Heh. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:51:40 PM 1792 Views
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Wha? Nate - 12/07/2010 07:50:44 PM 1838 Views
Re: Wha? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:52:21 PM 1824 Views
Pff. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:54:54 PM 1812 Views
*NM* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:56:03 PM 1139 Views
When did you pick up this book? Dark Knight - 12/07/2010 11:30:46 PM 1736 Views
I was 10. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:13:44 AM 1889 Views
Ah book orders...man you just brought back nostalgic memories. I miss being a kid Dark Knight - 13/07/2010 04:42:12 AM 1936 Views
I was 16. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 08:24:02 AM 1808 Views
1999 Camilla - 13/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1797 Views
What do you mean by adult version? aria - 13/07/2010 02:15:40 PM 1934 Views
Re: What do you mean by adult version? Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:17:40 PM 1786 Views
They started publishing copies with 'adult' covers so people wouldn't be caught out reading Chas - 13/07/2010 11:53:46 PM 1859 Views
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When Prisoner of Azkaban was a hardback. Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:23:57 PM 1813 Views
Got a boxed set for Christmas when Order of the Phoenix came out in hardback. StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:06:42 PM 1851 Views
Just after Goblet of Fire was published. Chas - 13/07/2010 11:50:38 PM 1868 Views
Just before Goblet of Fire came out. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:04:21 AM 1834 Views
The first five were out, waited for HBP. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:20:39 AM 1957 Views
You're making me want to talk about toadface Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:06:25 PM 1848 Views
Sorry! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:36:11 AM 1885 Views
Very early. Beginning of 1999, so it had just come out in the States. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/07/2010 08:54:06 AM 1139 Views
I held out quite awhile because I don't like "fads" Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:04:37 PM 1776 Views
Lol! aria - 14/07/2010 08:54:47 PM 1885 Views
I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:39:16 AM 1879 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Deadsy - 15/07/2010 10:01:04 AM 2054 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:44:28 PM 1937 Views
I would have, if I had known there was hype. I know I would have. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:28:50 PM 1915 Views
Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:47:01 PM 1946 Views
I think I was first! Monkey - 23/07/2010 07:05:08 PM 1898 Views
Aged 13 or 14 - a while before the first movie (which was Christmas 2001). *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:13:55 PM 1118 Views
Jesus Christ. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:04:46 PM 2031 Views
^That was me. *NM* Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 1112 Views
I was going to ask if it was. *NM* Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:04:59 PM 1096 Views
Aw. I was just feeling flattered as I didn't think Tor had read that many of my posts. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:15:52 AM 1134 Views
Besides, you've met me, you should know how old I am. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:16:23 AM 1176 Views
I am very bad at guessing age when I meet people in person Camilla - 27/07/2010 09:05:35 AM 2426 Views
Suggestions for the Re-read Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:33:25 AM 1834 Views
I like it so far Camilla - 13/07/2010 10:16:49 AM 1837 Views
I can try that for the next book. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 11:21:01 PM 1818 Views
This is my first official time participating and its been fun so far! StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:16:48 PM 1777 Views
Unfortunately, no. (Silly me, pretending someone's still going to read all my posts... ) *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:20:35 PM 1133 Views
Can we get chapter discussions everyday? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 06:40:30 PM 1080 Views
Inconsistencies Re: the Potter's death... fionwe1987 - 15/07/2010 05:16:45 AM 2155 Views
Because they were tricked? They considered Peter and Sirius to be brothers. Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 07:05:27 AM 1810 Views
That's nonsense.. fionwe1987 - 16/07/2010 01:08:40 AM 1737 Views
Take it up with Rowling, since you don't believe me. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 08:19:58 AM 1031 Views
What's there to believe? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:03:13 AM 1823 Views
Peter + Sirius = family. I don't know how to explain it more simply. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/07/2010 08:58:20 AM 1151 Views
Re: That's nonsense.. eucatastrophe - 16/07/2010 09:37:59 AM 1948 Views
Also Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:17:51 AM 2163 Views
You are correct! There is no inconsistency eucatastrophe - 17/07/2010 04:17:35 AM 1862 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:57:58 AM 1738 Views
But Camilla explained it! eucatastrophe - 18/07/2010 09:27:55 AM 2066 Views
Correction Camilla - 18/07/2010 10:58:59 AM 1857 Views
I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:42:18 PM 1753 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 05:51:36 PM 1773 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:17:04 PM 2067 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 06:28:27 PM 1767 Views
That bothers me too. aria - 18/07/2010 07:17:14 PM 1839 Views
Re: That bothers me too. Camilla - 18/07/2010 07:20:44 PM 1708 Views
Yet... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:47:56 PM 1781 Views
Re: Yet... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:02:31 PM 1821 Views
To quote Dumbledore... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 05:57:23 AM 1712 Views
Again... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM 2006 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:00:55 PM 1806 Views
Re: Again... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 06:33:13 AM 1998 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 20/07/2010 04:45:16 PM 1819 Views
Yet another load of bosh. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 01:00:14 AM 1801 Views
Then let's leave it. Camilla - 21/07/2010 06:48:45 AM 1899 Views
Re: Then let's leave it. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 04:19:35 PM 1814 Views
My two cents Seriana Sedai - 19/07/2010 06:11:30 AM 1874 Views
It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... DomA - 14/09/2010 12:11:20 AM 2256 Views
Re: It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:20:46 AM 1706 Views
You have to wonder if that's actually true. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:23:31 PM 1776 Views
Re: You have to wonder if that's actually true. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:06:43 PM 2002 Views
I don't know that I'd call it "see through Pettigrew"... Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:22:19 PM 1798 Views
^That was me, too. Oh, dear. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:56:43 PM 1976 Views
Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house aria - 18/07/2010 07:14:21 PM 1759 Views
Re: Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house Tor - 26/07/2010 05:07:48 PM 2205 Views
^ And this, too, was me. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:58:07 PM 1806 Views
Re: ^ And this, too, was me. Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:05:41 PM 1740 Views
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