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Re: Aaaah, Sirius. Camilla Send a noteboard - 28/07/2010 02:22:17 PM
It struck me how different it is to read the book knowing that Sirius is innocent. It changes the whole tenor of it.

It really does, but then again it'd be strange if it wouldn't. It's kind of hard to remember if I really felt Harry was under a serious threat from Sirius, the first time I read the book...

I like how the magical spills over into the lives of muggles without them realising, a motif that pops up with increasing frequency in later books.

Yeah, that's always fun. It's one of the less realistic parts of Rowling's world, but amusing nonetheless.


I don't know if I am thinking of the same as you are. I was thinking more in terms of threats Sirius (in this case), Dementors and Death Eaters (mainly in the later books).

Why did Sirius laugh when Pettigrew had killed all those people? It isn't clear whether it is an embellishment added by Stan, but if it isn't ...

I took it to be a hysterical reaction, him having reached a tipping point and suddenly finding the idea of Pettigrew the rat sneaking off to the sewers fantastically funny. But I am not sure. It would be interesting to hear what others thought.

I'm fairly sure we're going to get more about that later in the book. He did indeed laugh, I think, and yeah, it isn't exactly a sign of perfect mental stability right then and there.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - 28/07/2010 12:00:14 PM 3457 Views
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say... - 28/07/2010 01:40:37 PM 2214 Views
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 2014 Views
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 1924 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 1902 Views
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It's not entirely clear, true. - 08/08/2010 02:44:50 PM 2036 Views
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Colin Creevey is working class. - 28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM 1934 Views
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Judging by his father's profession, yes. - 28/07/2010 06:53:02 PM 1976 Views
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Right. - 29/07/2010 02:28:34 PM 1948 Views
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:04:47 PM 1108 Views
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And the beginning of "appearances can be deceiving". - 02/08/2010 11:48:36 PM 1922 Views
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius. - 28/07/2010 02:22:17 PM 1836 Views
I was talking about that, yes, among other things. - 28/07/2010 07:00:08 PM 1832 Views
Re: I was talking about that, yes, among other things. - 28/07/2010 07:03:11 PM 2091 Views
Thats easy really - 28/07/2010 02:05:26 PM 1919 Views
Writing style. - 28/07/2010 12:07:24 PM 2013 Views
It is a better book. - 28/07/2010 02:00:54 PM 1901 Views
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:08:07 PM 1041 Views
That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 28/07/2010 02:08:21 PM 1841 Views
Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1823 Views
not yet. - 28/07/2010 02:23:28 PM 1795 Views
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin! - 29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM 1954 Views
Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 974 Views
Could be, could be. - 29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM 1894 Views
Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:41:38 PM 1020 Views
Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 1001 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 1990 Views
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here? - 30/07/2010 01:48:06 PM 1827 Views
I don't think it's too early. - 30/07/2010 06:26:15 PM 1749 Views
I don't think it's too early to argue that. - 03/08/2010 06:02:17 PM 1989 Views
Themes. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:24:31 AM 924 Views
Death and fear of death - 29/07/2010 11:51:25 AM 1822 Views
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 1982 Views
I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:25:08 PM 1753 Views
Re: I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:27:04 PM 1856 Views
Introduction of the Dementors. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM 1012 Views
They are Rowling's most terrifying creation - 29/07/2010 12:00:34 PM 1820 Views
Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:31:47 PM 953 Views
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I thinking something thats a little off topic - 29/07/2010 02:40:36 PM 1769 Views
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends - 29/07/2010 02:47:31 PM 1792 Views
Mission accomplished. - 29/07/2010 02:48:35 PM 1853 Views
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And among her most original, I'd say. - 30/07/2010 01:53:25 PM 1813 Views
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Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:52:55 PM 1919 Views
I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1796 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1781 Views
Good point. - 05/08/2010 11:06:10 PM 1840 Views
Chapters 7-9. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:11:59 PM 1145 Views
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Yeah, he knew because of Sirius' little slip. - 30/07/2010 06:27:36 PM 1780 Views
I doubt Sirius had to actually say that it was Lupin though. - 31/07/2010 04:33:38 AM 1838 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 895 Views
She is getting good at misdirection - 30/07/2010 02:50:40 PM 1767 Views
Other things you want to comment on. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:13:36 PM 1012 Views
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart. - 30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM 1806 Views
Agree, especially about Neville - 31/07/2010 06:21:25 AM 1890 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 31/07/2010 09:56:53 AM 1010 Views
Yes, excellent scene. - 09/08/2010 08:06:05 PM 1805 Views
Chapters 10-12. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:18 PM 916 Views
Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 1936 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 866 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM 1996 Views
I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM 1671 Views
I think it's just an unfortunate way of expressing herself. - 02/08/2010 02:53:26 PM 1760 Views
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I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM 1961 Views
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Mmmkay. - 04/08/2010 02:39:14 PM 1837 Views
Trelawny's Predictions - 02/08/2010 02:56:53 PM 1786 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 997 Views
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What if - 02/08/2010 11:50:28 PM 1642 Views
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Chapters 13-15. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM 998 Views
Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:25:47 PM 1790 Views
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Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:23:35 PM 1980 Views
OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1875 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:37:18 PM 1821 Views
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Agreed. - 08/08/2010 03:03:19 PM 1874 Views
Re: 200 people - 09/08/2010 12:09:53 AM 1779 Views
Well. - 09/08/2010 08:21:24 AM 1896 Views
True - 09/08/2010 02:02:52 PM 1910 Views
we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 2081 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 970 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 03/08/2010 05:31:43 PM 1899 Views
Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1789 Views
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I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM 1723 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1887 Views
Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM 1903 Views
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 988 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 1942 Views
Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:57:06 PM 1833 Views
For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1807 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1839 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1744 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1856 Views
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Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1797 Views
Chapters 16-18. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM 1032 Views
Characters. - 04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM 1939 Views
Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1846 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 1936 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1835 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1734 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1649 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1862 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1756 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1795 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 1863 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1730 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1606 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1879 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1107 Views
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Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM 1906 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM 1876 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:14:04 PM 1680 Views
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Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 971 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1625 Views
Re: Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM 2149 Views
See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2180 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 1909 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 2267 Views
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1908 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1876 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 877 Views
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1850 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1844 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1764 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 923 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1705 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1938 Views
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Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 936 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 993 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1814 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1661 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1674 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1906 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 1022 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1788 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 2009 Views
Re: I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 08:49:50 AM 1789 Views
Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 1013 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1731 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1727 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 939 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1713 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 1020 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1711 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1880 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1764 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1604 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1720 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1806 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1854 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1778 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1704 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1783 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1915 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1872 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1791 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1706 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 930 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 919 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1709 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1916 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1744 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1815 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1912 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1746 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1846 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1791 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 834 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1820 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1870 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1740 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 955 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1832 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1774 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1723 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1727 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 916 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 1009 Views

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