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He is so lovely. Rebekah Send a noteboard - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM
I lovelovelove Lupin. Ahem. Oh, clear and rational analysis and discussion, you say? Right.

:D

First Scabbers. Not so much an observation as a question, really. If Pettigrew lives as a rat, in the body of a rat, and he never returns to human form, should he not age as a rat, and be very weak and die soon?

Dunno. How long do rats live? Couldn't magical ratty pets be longlived?

The Twins: I love how Fred and George tried to shut Percy in a pyramid. And their mocking parody of him greeting Harry had me giggling out loud. But then they are perfectly subtle and tactful about cheering Harry up about the dementors and Malfoy at the feast. They become many-faceted, not just clowns or funny happy guys. They are actually able to deal sensibly with a younger kid being bullied. I am impressed.

The twins are really well written characters. I believe everything about them. That's one of Rowling's talents, I think, creating multi-faceted personalities to inhabit her books.

I like Mr and Mrs Weasley's discussion on whether to tell Harry. It is nice to see they love him. And how Mr Weasley would be willing to go back on his word to Fudge because he feels Harry needs to know what is going on. Of course, this reflects on Fudge again, feeling it is better to just keep everyone in the dark.

So lovely. Fudge is the perfect government man. It's kind of reassuring that even the Magical World has such useless leaders. :P

And Crookshanks is perfectly lovely. I don't see what Ron is on about. It sounds like the world's best cat. Although it isn't a cat, is it. It's a something else, the name of which escapes me.

Cats drool.

But Crookshanks is funny. Reminds me of Greebo.

But LupinLupinLupin! Ah, one of my major literary crushes. And it is not just the fact that he offers free chocolate (always a plus). He is asleep, then, as soon as the dementors are there he protects the kids and then he offers them chocolate. Lovely. Perfect. He makes everything feel safe and good.

I bet he's pretty huggable as well.

Malfoy is his usual self. Clearly mocking Harry's reaction to the dementors to cover up his own fear of them. And then getting suitably punished for his disrespect by Buckbeak.

~nods~ Slimy little twerp. I do feel sorry for him, though. What with his father and all.

Sir Cadogan is a little annoying. Or quite annoying. But he never reaches anywhere near the levels of annoyance reached in the last book.

~nods~

Trelawny. Is lovely in an annoying sort of way. I fully intend to start walking up to random strangers and say "You know that thing you are dreading? It will happen on [random date]". It is genius. And I really like how some of her "predictions" turn out to be real, but not in the way she interprets them. For example, the ``around Easter, one of our number will leave us forever''. And she does seem to have a good ability to read human nature, as when she identifies Neville as the one most likely to break a cup if prodded in the right way. She is a problematic character, though. Very morally grey in the way she abuses the credibility of students by making them think one of them is going to die, for example. And I wonder whether she got the twins mixed up when she told Parvati to beware of red-haired men, as her sister is the one who has a miserable time with Ron at the Yule Ball.

Trelawny is great. I like that Rowling remembers to have useless established teachers as well as the replacements the kids have suffered over the past two years. Makes Quirrell and Lockhart seem much less anomalous.

And Emma Thompson was the perfect pick for Trelawney.

Also: I've often wondered whether the teenage girl readers are supposed to think that the thing Lavender is dreading is her period. Might make young girls feel a bit better about the fact they're worried about it. I like to think of Rowling as being caring like that.

McGonnagall, as usual, the voice of clear-cutting no-nonsense reason, knowing the perfect way to dispell Trelawny's mumbo-jumbo.

I had a teacher like McGonagall. She was wonderful. Strict but fair.
*MySmiley*

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He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 1846 Views
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Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1614 Views
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Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1753 Views
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OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1676 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1604 Views
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Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1749 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1063 Views
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Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 922 Views
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2047 Views
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1772 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1740 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 822 Views
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1732 Views
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Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1643 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 872 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1587 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1809 Views
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Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 888 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 946 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1525 Views
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I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1796 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 965 Views
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I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 1881 Views
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Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 936 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1631 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1626 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 880 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 951 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1599 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1770 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1652 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1491 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1609 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1693 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1735 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1663 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1602 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1667 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1797 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1739 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1685 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1595 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 874 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 866 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1585 Views
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Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1697 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1783 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1622 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1747 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1673 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 775 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1713 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1751 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1628 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 899 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1732 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1666 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1617 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1622 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 862 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 945 Views

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