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Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. Tor Send a noteboard - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM
It is an upper class setting, of course, but since all wizarding children in Britain and Ireland have to visit the school, I understand, there'd have to be working class children. But if Rowling doesn't give them the accents, we'll not so easily find them. Snape is one, one might argue, but one who managed to work his way up to upper middle class - we only find out about his background in book seven, really.


This is interesting. I have always assumed that there must be several schools of witchcraft and wizardry in Great Britain. People frquently say things like "Hogwarts is the best school" (I can only think of Hagrid in the first book, but I have a feeling I have read it elsewhere) and comments about accepting children of Muggles. If there is only one school, and all magical children in Britain and Ireland go there, then it doesn't make sense to talk about it being the best school.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - 28/07/2010 12:00:14 PM 3477 Views
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say... - 28/07/2010 01:40:37 PM 2240 Views
Re: She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say... - 28/07/2010 02:15:24 PM 2090 Views
Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 2035 Views
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 1944 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 1930 Views
Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM 2301 Views
It's not entirely clear, true. - 08/08/2010 02:44:50 PM 2060 Views
Incorrect - 28/07/2010 04:17:09 PM 1968 Views
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Colin Creevey is working class. - 28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM 1956 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong - 28/07/2010 06:38:20 PM 1999 Views
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Judging by his father's profession, yes. - 28/07/2010 06:53:02 PM 2000 Views
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Right. - 29/07/2010 02:28:34 PM 1972 Views
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:04:47 PM 1121 Views
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And the beginning of "appearances can be deceiving". - 02/08/2010 11:48:36 PM 1946 Views
First impressions on the news of Sirius Black's escape. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:05:26 PM 1116 Views
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius. - 28/07/2010 02:22:17 PM 1859 Views
I was talking about that, yes, among other things. - 28/07/2010 07:00:08 PM 1864 Views
Re: I was talking about that, yes, among other things. - 28/07/2010 07:03:11 PM 2114 Views
Thats easy really - 28/07/2010 02:05:26 PM 1950 Views
Writing style. - 28/07/2010 12:07:24 PM 2046 Views
It is a better book. - 28/07/2010 02:00:54 PM 1927 Views
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Re: Its much more mature writing style I think - 28/07/2010 02:36:38 PM 1826 Views
Re: It is a better book. - 03/08/2010 05:53:30 PM 1848 Views
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:08:07 PM 1052 Views
That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 28/07/2010 02:08:21 PM 1867 Views
Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1851 Views
not yet. - 28/07/2010 02:23:28 PM 1811 Views
What am I doing today? I need some more sleep! - 28/07/2010 02:36:54 PM 1850 Views
Re: That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 03/08/2010 05:54:06 PM 1905 Views
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin! - 29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM 1975 Views
Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 985 Views
Could be, could be. - 29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM 1919 Views
Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:41:38 PM 1028 Views
Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 1014 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 2015 Views
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here? - 30/07/2010 01:48:06 PM 1850 Views
I don't think it's too early. - 30/07/2010 06:26:15 PM 1792 Views
I don't think it's too early to argue that. - 03/08/2010 06:02:17 PM 2012 Views
Themes. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:24:31 AM 932 Views
Death and fear of death - 29/07/2010 11:51:25 AM 1843 Views
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 2011 Views
I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:25:08 PM 1779 Views
Re: I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:27:04 PM 1880 Views
Introduction of the Dementors. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM 1020 Views
They are Rowling's most terrifying creation - 29/07/2010 12:00:34 PM 1850 Views
Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:31:47 PM 962 Views
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I thinking something thats a little off topic - 29/07/2010 02:40:36 PM 1790 Views
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends - 29/07/2010 02:47:31 PM 1820 Views
Mission accomplished. - 29/07/2010 02:48:35 PM 1886 Views
Yippee! - 29/07/2010 02:52:16 PM 1799 Views
And among her most original, I'd say. - 30/07/2010 01:53:25 PM 1842 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:51:05 PM 1802 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:52:55 PM 1937 Views
I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1825 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1809 Views
Good point. - 05/08/2010 11:06:10 PM 1860 Views
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Characters. - 30/07/2010 02:07:20 PM 1781 Views
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Lupin vs. Snape - 30/07/2010 06:10:07 PM 1778 Views
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Yeah, he knew because of Sirius' little slip. - 30/07/2010 06:27:36 PM 1805 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 905 Views
She is getting good at misdirection - 30/07/2010 02:50:40 PM 1795 Views
Other things you want to comment on. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:13:36 PM 1020 Views
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart. - 30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM 1832 Views
Agree, especially about Neville - 31/07/2010 06:21:25 AM 1918 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 31/07/2010 09:56:53 AM 1020 Views
Yes, excellent scene. - 09/08/2010 08:06:05 PM 1830 Views
Chapters 10-12. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:18 PM 930 Views
Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 1961 Views
Re: Characters. - 02/08/2010 01:36:53 PM 1789 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 873 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM 2016 Views
I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM 1686 Views
I think it's just an unfortunate way of expressing herself. - 02/08/2010 02:53:26 PM 1789 Views
Re: I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:53:48 PM 1820 Views
I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM 1990 Views
Re: I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:22:39 PM 1808 Views
I agree - 03/08/2010 05:25:10 PM 1820 Views
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Mmmkay. - 04/08/2010 02:39:14 PM 1865 Views
Trelawny's Predictions - 02/08/2010 02:56:53 PM 1811 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 1004 Views
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What if - 02/08/2010 11:50:28 PM 1668 Views
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Chapters 13-15. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM 1004 Views
Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:25:47 PM 1812 Views
Re: Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:29:32 PM 1914 Views
Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:21:17 PM 1819 Views
Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:23:35 PM 2003 Views
OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1902 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:37:18 PM 1847 Views
Re: Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:45:30 PM 1808 Views
Re: Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:49:59 PM 1795 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 03:03:19 PM 1901 Views
Re: 200 people - 09/08/2010 12:09:53 AM 1804 Views
Well. - 09/08/2010 08:21:24 AM 1917 Views
True - 09/08/2010 02:02:52 PM 1935 Views
we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 2105 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 983 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 03/08/2010 05:31:43 PM 1920 Views
Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1812 Views
Yes - 08/08/2010 02:25:12 PM 1795 Views
I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM 1747 Views
Re: I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 09:01:18 PM 1867 Views
pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1909 Views
Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM 1938 Views
Re: Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:21:37 PM 1733 Views
The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 997 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 1973 Views
Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:57:06 PM 1859 Views
For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1830 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1865 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1770 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1877 Views
Re: Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:18:01 PM 2081 Views
Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1827 Views
Chapters 16-18. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM 1038 Views
Characters. - 04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM 1965 Views
Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1884 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 1965 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1862 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1760 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1680 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1888 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1780 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1818 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 1898 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1755 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1630 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1905 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1121 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 04/08/2010 05:19:45 PM 1732 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM 1929 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM 1900 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:14:04 PM 1701 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:15:51 PM 1768 Views
Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 979 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1650 Views
Re: Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM 2177 Views
See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2208 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 1933 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 2295 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 2104 Views
Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1932 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1899 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 895 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM 2096 Views
I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1871 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1872 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1795 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 933 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1729 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1964 Views
Re: Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:18:12 PM 1765 Views
Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 946 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 1000 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1840 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1683 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1695 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1929 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 1030 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1810 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 2034 Views
Re: I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 08:49:50 AM 1817 Views
Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 1022 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1758 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1753 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 951 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1738 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 1033 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1737 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1911 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1787 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1628 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1747 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1833 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1877 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1808 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1722 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1805 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1941 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1896 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1808 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1723 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 942 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 931 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1730 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1939 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1767 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1836 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1935 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1771 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1868 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1811 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 844 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1852 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1892 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1764 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 968 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1861 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1797 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1745 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1749 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 927 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 1016 Views

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