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Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. Tor Send a noteboard - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM
It is an upper class setting, of course, but since all wizarding children in Britain and Ireland have to visit the school, I understand, there'd have to be working class children. But if Rowling doesn't give them the accents, we'll not so easily find them. Snape is one, one might argue, but one who managed to work his way up to upper middle class - we only find out about his background in book seven, really.


This is interesting. I have always assumed that there must be several schools of witchcraft and wizardry in Great Britain. People frquently say things like "Hogwarts is the best school" (I can only think of Hagrid in the first book, but I have a feeling I have read it elsewhere) and comments about accepting children of Muggles. If there is only one school, and all magical children in Britain and Ireland go there, then it doesn't make sense to talk about it being the best school.
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 1975 Views
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 1868 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 1858 Views
Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM 2239 Views
It's not entirely clear, true. - 08/08/2010 02:44:50 PM 1996 Views
Incorrect - 28/07/2010 04:17:09 PM 1902 Views
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Colin Creevey is working class. - 28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM 1894 Views
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Thats easy really - 28/07/2010 02:05:26 PM 1874 Views
Writing style. - 28/07/2010 12:07:24 PM 1976 Views
It is a better book. - 28/07/2010 02:00:54 PM 1857 Views
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1777 Views
not yet. - 28/07/2010 02:23:28 PM 1758 Views
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Re: That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 03/08/2010 05:54:06 PM 1841 Views
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin! - 29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM 1917 Views
Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 958 Views
Could be, could be. - 29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM 1853 Views
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Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 982 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 1931 Views
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here? - 30/07/2010 01:48:06 PM 1786 Views
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Themes. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:24:31 AM 904 Views
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 1935 Views
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Re: I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:27:04 PM 1812 Views
Introduction of the Dementors. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM 991 Views
They are Rowling's most terrifying creation - 29/07/2010 12:00:34 PM 1772 Views
Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:31:47 PM 932 Views
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I thinking something thats a little off topic - 29/07/2010 02:40:36 PM 1724 Views
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends - 29/07/2010 02:47:31 PM 1744 Views
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Yippee! - 29/07/2010 02:52:16 PM 1731 Views
And among her most original, I'd say. - 30/07/2010 01:53:25 PM 1764 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:51:05 PM 1728 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:52:55 PM 1874 Views
I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1758 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1737 Views
Good point. - 05/08/2010 11:06:10 PM 1804 Views
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Characters. - 30/07/2010 02:07:20 PM 1716 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 878 Views
She is getting good at misdirection - 30/07/2010 02:50:40 PM 1726 Views
Other things you want to comment on. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:13:36 PM 991 Views
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart. - 30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM 1764 Views
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Agreed. *NM* - 31/07/2010 09:56:53 AM 989 Views
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Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 1872 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 848 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM 1957 Views
I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM 1628 Views
I think it's just an unfortunate way of expressing herself. - 02/08/2010 02:53:26 PM 1723 Views
Re: I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:53:48 PM 1766 Views
I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM 1918 Views
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Mmmkay. - 04/08/2010 02:39:14 PM 1794 Views
Trelawny's Predictions - 02/08/2010 02:56:53 PM 1746 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 980 Views
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What if - 02/08/2010 11:50:28 PM 1581 Views
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Chapters 13-15. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM 982 Views
Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:25:47 PM 1749 Views
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Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:21:17 PM 1747 Views
Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:23:35 PM 1923 Views
OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1848 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:37:18 PM 1782 Views
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Re: Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:49:59 PM 1731 Views
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Well. - 09/08/2010 08:21:24 AM 1854 Views
True - 09/08/2010 02:02:52 PM 1858 Views
we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 2046 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 952 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 03/08/2010 05:31:43 PM 1853 Views
Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1751 Views
Yes - 08/08/2010 02:25:12 PM 1727 Views
I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM 1675 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1842 Views
Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM 1863 Views
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 971 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 1890 Views
Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:57:06 PM 1788 Views
For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1764 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1794 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1707 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1824 Views
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Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1740 Views
Chapters 16-18. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM 1007 Views
Characters. - 04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM 1894 Views
Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1794 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 1897 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1792 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1688 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1605 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1826 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1707 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1751 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 1819 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1683 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1566 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1831 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1091 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 04/08/2010 05:19:45 PM 1672 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM 1862 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM 1832 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:14:04 PM 1630 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:15:51 PM 1684 Views
Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 950 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1587 Views
Re: Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM 2093 Views
See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2129 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 1864 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 2232 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 2039 Views
Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1854 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1830 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 861 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM 2021 Views
I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1811 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1791 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1724 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 902 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1652 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1891 Views
Re: Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:18:12 PM 1706 Views
Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 917 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 974 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1774 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1617 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1626 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1869 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 1005 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1753 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 1962 Views
Re: I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 08:49:50 AM 1750 Views
Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 988 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1688 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1694 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 917 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1680 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 997 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1676 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1843 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1717 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1566 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1681 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1765 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1805 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1728 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1668 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1741 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1876 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1815 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1748 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1658 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 912 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 898 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1662 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1873 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1708 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1771 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1872 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1699 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1805 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1751 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 812 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1782 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1829 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1687 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 930 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1796 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1731 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1676 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1687 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 893 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 986 Views

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