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Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla Send a noteboard - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM
I will not be reading Dutch poetry in Dutch, thank you very much. Prose I might handle. Not potery.

Aw. I was going to show you my favourite Hooft sonnet, but... yeah. It might be a bit hard, and the antiquated and inconsistent spelling won't help.

I'll post it anyway for anyone who wants to see what they can make of it:

Geswinde grijsaert die op wackre wiecken staech,

De dunne lucht doorsnijt, en sonder seil te strijcken,

Altijdt vaert voor de windt, en ijder nae laet kijcken,

Doodtvyandt van de rust, die woelt bij nacht bij daech;

Onachterhaelbre Tijdt, wiens heten honger graech

Verslockt, verslint, verteert al watter sterck mach lijcken

En keert, en wendt, en stort Staeten en Coninckrijcken;

Voor ijder een te snel, hoe valtdij mij soo traech?

Mijn lief sint ick u mis, verdrijve' jck met mishaeghen

De schoorvoetighe Tijdt, en tob de lange daeghen

Met arbeidt avontwaerts; uw afzijn valt te bang.

En mijn verlangen can den Tijdtgod niet beweghen.

Maer 't schijnt verlangen daer sijn naem af heeft gecreghen,

Dat jck den Tijdt, die jck vercorten wil, verlang.

If you want to start easy on Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities or The Mystery of Edwin Drood might be good. Little Dorrit and Bleak House (paradoxically) are both quite happy in the end. For some. Not all.

I've heard good things from others as well about Tale of Two Cities. I might try that.


It is less "Dickensian" than his other books, I'd say. And a little more ... what's the word? It is simpler and more romance-tinted. Perhaps because of the historical "colour".
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Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1189 Views
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Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1269 Views
Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM 1119 Views
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