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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM
I don't really mean either. The ideas themselves may not be difficult to grasp OR challenge predominant views, but their presentation in a literary work may be done in such a way that it's not immediately apparent, or that requires reading a hundred pages of seemingly meaningless exposition before their impact can be felt.

I understand you now. Thanks for the clarification. It's more a matter of execution and presentation.

I struggled with Crime and Punishment, honestly. Ultimately good and worth it, but it was tough for me to get through. I've been stalling on reading more, mainly The Brothers Karamazov.

Note that I did NOT put Crime and Punishment on my list of favorites. I think it's perhaps Dostoevsky's least successful "major" work. It's slower, less developed and a bit predictable.


I actually noted that, the first time I tried to reply to you, and it didn't post for some reason. Either way, I think I'll start with The Brothers Karamazov and see if I want to try the others.


Tender is the Night is his last finished novel and very autobiographical. As a result, it's quite sad.


I'll have to add this one to the list too then. I really enjoyed his writing style and I like the added parrallel to his personal life, even if it's a sad one.
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The Classics - general discussion / survey StormCrow - 30/09/2010 03:52:53 PM 1740 Views
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Get a copy with annotations! Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:56:12 PM 1182 Views
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Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM 1365 Views
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Re: Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:07:20 PM 1304 Views
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Well, have you seen any of the Austen TV/movie adaptations, then? Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:25:58 PM 1290 Views
Oh yes. I even made the mistake of purchasing the new Pride and Prejudice for her. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:10:05 AM 1346 Views
They are much, much worse than powder soup. Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:07 PM 1185 Views
Well, since they're made of paper... StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:09:41 PM 1266 Views
Re: My own answers. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:35:36 PM 1325 Views
Cliff's notes Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 08:05:56 PM 1377 Views
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It's cool. StormCrow - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1431 Views
A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 05:33:35 PM 1307 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 06:46:02 PM 1315 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM 1377 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:39:16 PM 1170 Views
Camilla, that's just because you're an atheist. Tom - 01/10/2010 09:37:34 PM 1201 Views
Yes. Camilla - 01/10/2010 09:51:32 PM 1197 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM 1386 Views
I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM 701 Views
I could post you over a copy to borrow. Rebekah - 30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM 1129 Views
That is very kind, but I have far too much to do to read non-school books, unfortunately. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:53:23 PM 1191 Views
It is good. *NM* Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 555 Views
Haven't read any other Kundera, but yes, that one is very enjoyable. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:30 PM 692 Views
I found his other books to be pale copies of The Unbearable Lightness of Being. *NM* Tom - 30/09/2010 10:51:55 PM 735 Views
totally problematic classics temeraire - 30/09/2010 08:07:22 PM 1326 Views
Re: totally problematic classics StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:26:46 PM 1205 Views
I study them, apparently. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1397 Views
I wish I could do that. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM 1327 Views
Less fun than you'd think. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM 1160 Views
More admiration of your discipline than assuming you were having fun with it. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:31:06 AM 1308 Views
Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1391 Views
I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM 1387 Views
Good survey. Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM 1375 Views
Agreed. edited Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:37:48 PM 1347 Views
But but but Milton is beautiful Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:46:06 PM 1251 Views
Sometimes. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM 1324 Views
Maybe I was unclear. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 1279 Views
Re: Maybe I was unclear. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:57:41 PM 1153 Views
I'm glad you approve on the whole. Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 1356 Views
I generally do. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 1271 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1444 Views
Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM 1346 Views
Dickens StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:42:42 PM 1267 Views
Re: I generally do. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:54:11 PM 1338 Views
Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 1177 Views
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My classics nossy - 30/09/2010 10:54:56 PM 1231 Views
Re: My classics StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:01:24 AM 1332 Views
Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM 1412 Views
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Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 01/10/2010 05:20:10 AM 1334 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:05:35 PM 1298 Views
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Ha, we weren't that far off after all. StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:11:39 PM 1203 Views
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I figured as much. Ghavrel - 01/10/2010 03:08:26 AM 1162 Views
I expected you to have quite a few as well. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:25:06 AM 1261 Views
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Glad to bring back the school days. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 01:49:48 PM 1327 Views
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the bf and I are going to do a "Paradise Lost" book club... ajah - 02/10/2010 08:29:38 AM 1430 Views
Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:40:48 AM 1303 Views
Re: Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. ajah - 02/10/2010 09:42:37 PM 1289 Views
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