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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/10/2010 11:20:28 PM
I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, the not malevolently racist bit, but couldn't come up with anything. It's like a general attitude he has but he doesn't hold to it when someone is gifted like Lily or Dirk Creswell. I find it odd.

I think it's not really odd, quite realistic in fact. Just think of all the racists who make exceptions for their personal friends.
Dumbledore refers to his "considerable talents" and I think Slughorn is aware that he may be useful to Voldemort. Do you think this is arrogance on Slughorn's part or an astute observation and reaction?

I think he certainly might be useful to Voldemort, but still it's interesting that he'd think he would be among Voldemort's first priorities, and that Voldemort would risk blowing his cover (well, to the extent he still has a cover). What I also want to know is what he did during the previous war - evidently he never became a DE, but did he spend all that time running away so they could never try to recruit him, too?
See, now I adore Ginny, but I think she's really unfair. I think Fleur is trying in the beginning and then as she gets the attitude she stops trying as hard (the Christmas radio broadcast comes to mind, hardly her most endearing chapter). I never understood why everyone was so shocked that she still wants to marry Bill by the end, if anything I'd think she'd want to call it off before to get away from a family that doesn't want her.

*I* think Ginny is unfair, too, but I'm not sure if Rowling does, which was my point about not being sure what to infer. And yes, agreed - I'm not sure if any reader really would've expected Fleur to go "no, I can't marry him anymore". She's shown a long time ago that she has her priorities straight.
I felt badly for her briefly after the Lucius remark, until she hits back just as hard about Harry being reunited with Sirius.

Heh, yes.
I didn't phrase that as well as I would have liked...I'll blame a lack of coffee. ;) I meant how Mrs. Weasley has always wanted them to be more like Percy and being disappointed with their behavior. It provides a nice counterpoint to this to see them be successful and later showing their mother how much they appreciate her. I think they are great sons.

Oh, yeah, I was glad to see her come around, too.
That's exactly it! He's right in the next book too about something big...so that's the second time a day, right? ;)

Indeed. I suppose it makes sense that he gets to be right more often later on in the books, older and wiser and all... but every once in a while he still has to get things totally and utterly wrong to not make the reader wonder who this guy is and what he's done with Harry Potter.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3354 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1992 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 2130 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2216 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1977 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 2038 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 2168 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1903 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1168 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1115 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 2061 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2249 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2259 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2237 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2247 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2306 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1991 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 1042 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2147 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 2117 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 2067 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1176 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 2173 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2252 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 10:20:28 PM 2148 Views
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Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 2151 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 2105 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1994 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 2037 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1973 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 2051 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 2113 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 1056 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1913 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1911 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1209 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1139 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2167 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1936 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1933 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1947 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1975 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 2122 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 2035 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1980 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2129 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 2032 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 2109 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 2103 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 2158 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1998 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1134 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 2071 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 2010 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 2028 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1956 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1173 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1922 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 2052 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 2032 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1197 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1148 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2229 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 2038 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1881 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 2065 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 2051 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1941 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1965 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 2069 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 2102 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1979 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 2041 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1963 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 2113 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 2135 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 952 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1952 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 2028 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1896 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 2126 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 2007 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1990 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 2004 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 2015 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1997 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 2003 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2283 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2116 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 1008 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 2013 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1138 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1151 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 2047 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1977 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 2019 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2147 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 2133 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 916 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 2035 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2180 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 2044 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 2060 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 975 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 2166 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 2084 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1985 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2188 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 2023 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 2104 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1899 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1132 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1224 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2166 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1985 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 2002 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2224 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 2134 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 2068 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1729 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1983 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 2007 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1958 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 2093 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 1017 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1998 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 2068 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 889 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1244 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1889 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 2136 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2211 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 1002 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2232 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 1025 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2265 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1153 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 2085 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 2115 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 2111 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 1024 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 2023 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 2061 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 2124 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1905 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 2064 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 2098 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 1057 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1911 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1753 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1967 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 1035 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1993 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2241 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1963 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1158 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 979 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1097 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1941 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1981 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 2089 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 2071 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 2034 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2198 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2332 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 1006 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 2059 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2271 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1932 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 2087 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 2039 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2278 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2528 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 2084 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 2152 Views

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