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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/10/2010 11:20:28 PM
I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, the not malevolently racist bit, but couldn't come up with anything. It's like a general attitude he has but he doesn't hold to it when someone is gifted like Lily or Dirk Creswell. I find it odd.

I think it's not really odd, quite realistic in fact. Just think of all the racists who make exceptions for their personal friends.
Dumbledore refers to his "considerable talents" and I think Slughorn is aware that he may be useful to Voldemort. Do you think this is arrogance on Slughorn's part or an astute observation and reaction?

I think he certainly might be useful to Voldemort, but still it's interesting that he'd think he would be among Voldemort's first priorities, and that Voldemort would risk blowing his cover (well, to the extent he still has a cover). What I also want to know is what he did during the previous war - evidently he never became a DE, but did he spend all that time running away so they could never try to recruit him, too?
See, now I adore Ginny, but I think she's really unfair. I think Fleur is trying in the beginning and then as she gets the attitude she stops trying as hard (the Christmas radio broadcast comes to mind, hardly her most endearing chapter). I never understood why everyone was so shocked that she still wants to marry Bill by the end, if anything I'd think she'd want to call it off before to get away from a family that doesn't want her.

*I* think Ginny is unfair, too, but I'm not sure if Rowling does, which was my point about not being sure what to infer. And yes, agreed - I'm not sure if any reader really would've expected Fleur to go "no, I can't marry him anymore". She's shown a long time ago that she has her priorities straight.
I felt badly for her briefly after the Lucius remark, until she hits back just as hard about Harry being reunited with Sirius.

Heh, yes.
I didn't phrase that as well as I would have liked...I'll blame a lack of coffee. ;) I meant how Mrs. Weasley has always wanted them to be more like Percy and being disappointed with their behavior. It provides a nice counterpoint to this to see them be successful and later showing their mother how much they appreciate her. I think they are great sons.

Oh, yeah, I was glad to see her come around, too.
That's exactly it! He's right in the next book too about something big...so that's the second time a day, right? ;)

Indeed. I suppose it makes sense that he gets to be right more often later on in the books, older and wiser and all... but every once in a while he still has to get things totally and utterly wrong to not make the reader wonder who this guy is and what he's done with Harry Potter.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3261 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1912 Views
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Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2137 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1895 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1965 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1826 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1130 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1076 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1981 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2173 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2181 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2149 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2146 Views
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I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1917 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 999 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2059 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 2015 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1992 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1134 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2176 Views
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Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 2077 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 2030 Views
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Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1959 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1873 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1982 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 2040 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 990 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1829 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1828 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1153 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1082 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2091 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1864 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1862 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1877 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1902 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 2039 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1962 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1909 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2041 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1958 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 2037 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 2030 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1084 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1989 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1936 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1948 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1881 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1099 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1846 Views
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Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1934 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1154 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1101 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2151 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1970 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1804 Views
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Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1955 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1863 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1884 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1980 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 2023 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1964 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 2031 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 909 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1863 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1949 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1821 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 2042 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1932 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1903 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1931 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1928 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1913 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1926 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2189 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2044 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 966 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1930 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1092 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1079 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1962 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1893 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1941 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2074 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 2058 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 877 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1958 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2100 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1967 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1976 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 935 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 2087 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 2011 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1893 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2119 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1940 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 2027 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1825 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1087 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1153 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2080 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1904 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1919 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2133 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 2037 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1973 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1640 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1906 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1937 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1882 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1998 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 971 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1925 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1992 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 853 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1206 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1809 Views
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Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2129 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 960 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2161 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 968 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2197 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1111 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 2007 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 2017 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 2036 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 982 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1952 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1985 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 2039 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1817 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1989 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 2015 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 979 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1831 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1661 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1865 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 991 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1918 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2167 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1891 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1112 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 933 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1057 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1859 Views
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I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 2002 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1999 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1964 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2120 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2255 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 965 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1982 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2201 Views
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This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 2014 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1963 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2200 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2455 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1992 Views
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