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Bull... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 16/09/2009 03:15:49 AM
You're just blinded by having read through 11 books of the crap.

You're blinded by your "lets be a Dan Brown advocate" attitude. Exactly how is any of Jordan's main characters more two-dimensional than a Dan Brown's insipid Robert Langdon or any of his window dressing female characters? Do give some specifics to justify your claim.
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Why is it that so many people hate Dan Brown? Tom - 14/09/2009 09:24:31 PM 2419 Views
His prose is bad. Very bad. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:28:28 PM 1261 Views
It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact. Tom - 14/09/2009 09:30:17 PM 1136 Views
Re: It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact. Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:32:44 PM 1281 Views
In defense of italics... smaug - 14/09/2009 11:58:35 PM 1206 Views
Re: In defense of italics... Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:02:56 AM 1228 Views
I just rechecked... smaug - 15/09/2009 11:17:23 AM 1136 Views
Thereby... Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:31:44 PM 1167 Views
I have a problem with comparing those italics. Rebekah - 15/09/2009 10:33:53 PM 1170 Views
Oh probably Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:40:15 PM 1173 Views
Hehe Rebekah - 15/09/2009 10:42:23 PM 1255 Views
In defense of nothing in particular... smaug - 15/09/2009 11:16:09 PM 1240 Views
Ah. Leroux did publish it as a serial in magazine first so that makes sense. *NM* Rebekah - 15/09/2009 11:19:40 PM 556 Views
Re: Thereby... Camilla - 16/09/2009 10:40:18 AM 1311 Views
I love that line, and nothing you say will change that. Legolas - 15/09/2009 11:15:29 PM 1149 Views
That line is great smaug - 15/09/2009 11:21:03 PM 1178 Views
Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD Tom - 15/09/2009 04:46:06 AM 1154 Views
Wow, the vehemence. Craig - 15/09/2009 05:55:38 AM 1208 Views
Riddle me this, Batman - if he weren't dying, would he have even done that? *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 01:53:57 PM 659 Views
Yes. Werthead - 15/09/2009 03:38:34 PM 1155 Views
burn *NM* LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:24:49 PM 538 Views
Relevant post as always Celia *NM* Walker_Boh - 15/09/2009 11:36:34 PM 626 Views
So you say... Tom - 16/09/2009 02:17:47 AM 1141 Views
No, he didn't. Werthead - 16/09/2009 04:44:31 AM 1221 Views
Re: Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:05:26 AM 1172 Views
His attitude to history isn't really any different from that of most writers Tom - 15/09/2009 01:54:55 PM 1151 Views
Except Camilla - 15/09/2009 04:56:23 PM 1151 Views
And ALSO except Tom - 17/09/2009 02:59:03 PM 1249 Views
Re: And ALSO except Camilla - 17/09/2009 05:27:40 PM 1152 Views
I vehemently disagree with this! Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:33:05 PM 1427 Views
How many chapters of Aes Sedai dresses and horse names did we go through in his books? Tom - 15/09/2009 04:45:04 AM 1194 Views
I'd have a slow moving plot to fast moving nonsense any day. fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 05:36:20 AM 1240 Views
With Jordan, that movement was glacial Tom - 15/09/2009 01:58:08 PM 1137 Views
so...your problem with jordan is that you're impatient? LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:26:07 PM 1094 Views
How many of us can say we're not antsy to know what happened? nossy - 15/09/2009 05:03:24 PM 1147 Views
So plot progression is all that matters? What about the other stuff I mentioned? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 04:50:06 PM 544 Views
Jordan's characters are just as two-dimensional as Brown's Tom - 16/09/2009 02:17:19 AM 1116 Views
Bull... fionwe1987 - 16/09/2009 03:15:49 AM 1139 Views
No, I think you're just blinded by liking WoT Tom - 17/09/2009 03:00:28 PM 1123 Views
No, you seem to be blinded by disliking him, more like. Legolas - 17/09/2009 06:25:21 PM 1132 Views
It's not hyperbole. Tom - 17/09/2009 08:13:47 PM 1145 Views
Yes, it is, and you're really going to have to back your stance up with arguments. Legolas - 17/09/2009 09:21:56 PM 1180 Views
No it isn't, and I won't. I'm bored with this debate. *NM* Tom - 18/09/2009 02:57:00 PM 583 Views
Yeah like that's not the case with you and Dan Brown. fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 06:56:37 PM 1191 Views
I don't think Dan Brown is a stellar writer. Tom - 17/09/2009 08:11:41 PM 1146 Views
Heh. It was "favourite" fantasy series not "best". Rebekah - 17/09/2009 08:19:02 PM 1121 Views
Then why defend him? fionwe1987 - 18/09/2009 12:14:35 AM 1102 Views
No Camilla - 18/09/2009 10:09:02 AM 1260 Views
Examples. Werthead - 17/09/2009 01:53:21 AM 1341 Views
LOL Rebekah - 17/09/2009 03:16:23 PM 1183 Views
Because he is shit? Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:38:59 PM 1404 Views
Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:43:24 AM 1171 Views
Re: Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it. Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:04:18 AM 1134 Views
Yes, I was talking about the book. Tom - 15/09/2009 01:58:54 PM 1114 Views
Re: Yes, I was talking about the book. Camilla - 15/09/2009 04:56:53 PM 1072 Views
Also Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:41:25 PM 1187 Views
Hate is a strong word. PhotoJim - 14/09/2009 09:44:02 PM 1250 Views
Nicely put. *NM* Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:46:03 PM 562 Views
*NM* Tashmere - 15/09/2009 04:16:35 AM 571 Views
He still didn't dick around with us as long as Robert Jordan did. *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 04:41:01 AM 590 Views
I'm not disagreeing with you on that one. *NM* PhotoJim - 15/09/2009 12:12:52 PM 611 Views
Elitism and frustration he sells so much and better authors don't? Legolas - 14/09/2009 09:51:39 PM 1092 Views
I think so. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:40:20 AM 1164 Views
you thought meyers was entertaining???? LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:28:48 PM 1113 Views
You thought it wasn't entertaining? Darth_Katie - 15/09/2009 07:42:06 PM 1098 Views
I would phrase that 'better' authors Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:29:54 PM 1123 Views
Okay, fair enough. Legolas - 15/09/2009 11:16:56 PM 1084 Views
Given that I know nothing about Dan Brown nossy - 14/09/2009 09:54:15 PM 1231 Views
Pfft! ~locks your reply~ Rebekah - 14/09/2009 10:00:23 PM 1133 Views
ooo, lock me baby! nossy - 14/09/2009 10:12:48 PM 1210 Views
A couple of the above points, and Suspension of Disbelief. Craig - 14/09/2009 10:23:26 PM 1204 Views
Good point about the "Ridiculous Things", that bugged me too. Legolas - 14/09/2009 10:35:32 PM 1246 Views
there is a difference between a book, which is a respectable medium, and a hollywood movie. jh - 14/09/2009 10:41:06 PM 1107 Views
There is really only a difference if you're looking for some higher learnin' nossy - 14/09/2009 10:52:39 PM 1186 Views
That statement makes no sense. *NM* jh - 14/09/2009 10:55:53 PM 480 Views
She must have been reading too much Dan Brown. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 10:58:51 PM 1118 Views
Yes it does nossy - 14/09/2009 11:00:41 PM 1097 Views
Only to the strangest of elitists. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 12:49:53 AM 602 Views
Go read screenplays for fun, populist. *NM* jh - 15/09/2009 10:20:01 AM 603 Views
Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 06:25:26 PM 1117 Views
Oh, I am sorry. jh - 16/09/2009 11:11:07 AM 1010 Views
Well... Craig - 14/09/2009 11:16:00 PM 1108 Views
I accept your points, but also your final statement Tom - 15/09/2009 04:38:46 AM 1104 Views
More to the point then... people don't really need a good reason to hate something in particular. Craig - 15/09/2009 06:00:33 AM 1176 Views
You didn't even like him as Mugatu in Zoolander? *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 01:47:57 PM 565 Views
Now, now. Craig - 15/09/2009 07:03:48 PM 1101 Views
Suspension of disbelief is a relative thing random thoughts - 15/09/2009 11:25:32 PM 1186 Views
Damn near everything is a relative thing. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:25:48 AM 1160 Views
I'm indifferent to him Larry - 15/09/2009 01:14:37 AM 1160 Views
If you're indifferent, you are apparently in a minority. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:36:28 AM 1121 Views
To put Brown's mediocrity in perspective, read Da Vinci and then Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. *NM* RandAllThor - 15/09/2009 01:32:11 AM 582 Views
Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now. Craig - 15/09/2009 01:49:28 AM 1091 Views
Re: Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now. RandAllThor - 15/09/2009 01:54:17 AM 1241 Views
Re: Rose Craig - 15/09/2009 02:16:53 AM 1116 Views
As someone who appreciated Foucault's Pendulum I don't argue his mediocrity. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 986 Views
I agree with your last sentence strongly. Joker - 26/09/2009 08:18:42 PM 1347 Views
I don't hate him, and I've never read any of his books Brian - 15/09/2009 01:45:37 AM 1096 Views
He was over hyped to me. Tashmere - 15/09/2009 04:15:32 AM 1114 Views
Da Vinci, not "Da Vinchi". The latter would be pronounced like "Da Vinki" in English. *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 04:32:40 AM 562 Views
I will fix it for for you. I just didn't care enough to look up the spelling on it. Tashmere - 15/09/2009 02:49:08 PM 1208 Views
I agree it was way overhyped. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:12:39 AM 1056 Views
Heh, I actually had the opposite. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:26:55 AM 1147 Views
The thing I hate the most is actually the fans who suddenly "know" stuff.... Sophy - 15/09/2009 07:49:22 AM 1267 Views
Yes! *NM* Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:06:35 AM 558 Views
I try to avoid stupid people like that altogether Tom - 15/09/2009 01:49:53 PM 1055 Views
And move to a deserted island? Sophy - 15/09/2009 02:33:01 PM 1336 Views
Those people are everywhere, but you don't have to talk to them Tom - 17/09/2009 03:02:24 PM 1196 Views
Lol. I agree wholeheartedly. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:17:51 AM 1170 Views
My take on why Dan Brown is so disliked. MightyYT - 15/09/2009 08:51:04 AM 1223 Views
As I've said before, I don't disagree that he's a mediocre writer Tom - 15/09/2009 01:52:23 PM 1099 Views
He 'true' book claims 5 million women were killed during the witch hunt AgentOrange - 15/09/2009 11:55:40 AM 1113 Views
I would hardly say I hate him Mark - 15/09/2009 02:33:13 PM 1163 Views
I think it's more the totally inexplicable nature of his success Werthead - 15/09/2009 03:48:28 PM 1255 Views
Eragon and Twilight indicate all that is evil to me in the world LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:33:29 PM 1247 Views
I hardly think it's that inexplicable. Legolas - 15/09/2009 04:33:39 PM 1113 Views
Honestly, his works play on a very basic fact of human psychology., everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:23:56 AM 1228 Views
Misplaced superiority. Jacob - 15/09/2009 05:10:34 PM 1164 Views
Well, regarding goodkind... jh - 15/09/2009 05:23:34 PM 1164 Views
I couldn't say... Jacob - 15/09/2009 05:57:12 PM 1200 Views
well, you stuck with the poor quality books longer than me. *NM* jh - 16/09/2009 12:39:23 AM 565 Views
It's pure literary snobbery Wibble - 15/09/2009 11:08:44 PM 1183 Views
I agree with you 100%. Tom - 16/09/2009 02:20:11 AM 1065 Views
Very nice summary. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:32:38 AM 1228 Views
That's more than a little unfair. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:29:59 AM 1111 Views
Dan Brown is a snob. Sophy - 16/09/2009 06:32:21 AM 1283 Views
Where does the rule come from that you can't read good books while travelling? It is nonsense! Camilla - 18/09/2009 10:16:56 AM 1348 Views
because all of the cool kids hate him random thoughts - 15/09/2009 11:17:29 PM 1019 Views
He has an enormous schwanzstucker. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/09/2009 01:18:37 AM 793 Views
I figured that'd set most guys against him. *NM* rebelaessedai - 16/09/2009 01:51:56 AM 586 Views
I don't get it either. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:01:04 AM 1073 Views
I think you'll appreciate this Tom Geoff - 16/09/2009 03:03:24 PM 1344 Views
Hmm. The sneerathon seems like a good idea. jh - 16/09/2009 03:52:15 PM 1121 Views
That was lovely, thank you! Tom - 17/09/2009 03:04:46 PM 1110 Views
My pleasure Geoff - 17/09/2009 03:58:31 PM 1251 Views
I don't. I think he's just average, though occasionally fun for an easy read/skim *NM* IndigoAjah - 17/09/2009 12:39:05 AM 592 Views
Plenty of them probably don't. They just don't have the guts to say what they truly think. *NM* Vodalus - 17/09/2009 10:10:39 PM 543 Views
And yet there's still no "Why do so many people hate Faile?" post on the WoT board... *NM* TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2009 04:05:26 PM 790 Views
How do you know? *NM* jh - 18/09/2009 04:57:15 PM 589 Views
I pop in there on occasion. TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2009 05:09:59 PM 1469 Views
Oh, it's a job. jh - 18/09/2009 07:35:32 PM 1227 Views
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