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Maybe they mean something else by using his name. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 11/12/2011 03:50:15 AM
It's not so much that they are saying Tolkien is the best and this new guy is close, or that the series is similar to LotR or whatever, but that they are claiming (generally in a hyperbolic way) that here is something new which can or will kick off a new direction to the genre. Whether or not you grew up with Tolkien or love his work or think he's a hack, or agree with his influence on a particular writer or a writer's similarity to him, you cannot deny his seminal role in the genre. He made it okay to write about orcs and elves and worlds of fantasy and so on, as something more than J & W Grimm & HC Anderson's type of work. Well, maybe George RR Martin is going to make unmagical, political intrigue series cool, or RJ will make big epics focused on the minutiae encountered by the heroes more common.

I see the Tolkien comparisons not so much as an indicator of the book's content, or the quality thereof, so much as an invitation to get in on the next big thing. And who knows? After you've spent a decade or so reading a series, it might actually become the basis of a network or premium cable TV series, as with Goodkind and Martin, or a hideous, bastardized Sci-Fi channel mockery as happened with Butcher. Hell, there might even be a movie in it, as with Rowling or Pullman or Lewis and of course, the big guy himself. There is just something really satisfying about catching a series like that before the movies come out, or the websites get started and maybe that's what they are trying to appeal to.
Cannoli
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Aren't the Tolkien comparisons getting a little...old? - 09/12/2011 09:51:39 PM 3339 Views
The comparison bothers me, but not because Tolkien isn't relevant. - 09/12/2011 10:05:22 PM 2169 Views
I agree with this. - 09/12/2011 10:21:34 PM 2251 Views
Re: I agree with this. - 10/12/2011 07:09:33 PM 2188 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/12/2011 12:09:19 PM 1166 Views
Only when shit works are being compared to him - 09/12/2011 10:22:26 PM 2115 Views
Larry, - 10/12/2011 01:13:18 AM 2124 Views
Snide dismissal that will be passed off as for his own entertainment. - 10/12/2011 04:55:43 AM 1995 Views
We get a lot of that around here. *NM* - 10/12/2011 05:18:01 AM 907 Views
makes me wonder... - 10/12/2011 04:37:33 PM 2018 Views
Re: makes me wonder... - 11/12/2011 03:03:15 AM 1968 Views
Well-deserved condescension. - 11/12/2011 03:54:27 AM 2165 Views
You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 04:20:26 AM 2408 Views
Re: You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 05:25:08 AM 2071 Views
Re: You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 06:03:02 AM 2019 Views
i think you shouldn't judge a whole world's school programs on your school - 11/12/2011 06:42:30 AM 2028 Views
Yeah, I'm limited in my knowledge, lol - 11/12/2011 08:03:26 AM 2023 Views
My school was...not great. - 11/12/2011 04:02:36 PM 2030 Views
I'm 24. - 11/12/2011 03:49:06 PM 1994 Views
If you're arguing that children should be able to read genre fiction, fine. - 11/12/2011 08:52:27 PM 1884 Views
Well, I suppose it depends on the type of genre being read - 11/12/2011 09:36:16 PM 2123 Views
How often do you hear the challenging writers mentioned at this site? - 12/12/2011 02:03:05 PM 1880 Views
Only when you, me, and a couple others write reviews - 12/12/2011 04:21:14 PM 2287 Views
Oh, it was the same as it always is - 12/12/2011 05:23:56 PM 1931 Views
True - 12/12/2011 06:29:10 PM 2055 Views
One note - 13/12/2011 12:17:48 AM 2060 Views
Perhaps - 13/12/2011 12:49:34 AM 2027 Views
*Sighs* Such is the plight of those shining few intelects... - 23/12/2011 01:15:47 AM 2050 Views
Much of the actual "Classics", that is, Greek and Latin originals, kids would eat up. - 12/12/2011 03:13:03 AM 1896 Views
Try teaching Apuleius in schools... *NM* - 12/12/2011 04:12:49 AM 1021 Views
Plato is exciting, brutal and scandalous? - 12/12/2011 09:59:13 PM 1991 Views
You're upfront and honest about it; he isn't. The difference matters to me. *NM* - 11/12/2011 05:18:42 AM 1083 Views
Uhh...uh... - 11/12/2011 05:34:23 AM 1969 Views
this is a bit off topic, but out of curiousity... - 11/12/2011 06:28:35 AM 2090 Views
There are no special snowflakes, are there? - 11/12/2011 09:39:21 PM 1903 Views
There are many way of widening one's horizons and broadening one's mind. - 11/12/2011 10:08:24 PM 1646 Views
I said as much in my comment - 11/12/2011 10:20:03 PM 1893 Views
What I don't like- - 12/12/2011 04:28:55 AM 2030 Views
Why don't you name something, then? - 12/12/2011 04:40:29 AM 1981 Views
Sure. - 13/12/2011 07:30:56 AM 1801 Views
Mentioning Ender's Game pretty much shot your argument in the foot. - 13/12/2011 02:02:59 PM 1894 Views
You dismiss the entire video game medium because many games lack value. - 13/12/2011 03:59:11 PM 2054 Views
You're like the McDonald's paid advocate trying to say Big Macs are actually healthy. - 13/12/2011 05:46:37 PM 1813 Views
McDonalds food is inherently unhealthy. - 13/12/2011 06:02:18 PM 2034 Views
For the sake of argument ... - 13/12/2011 04:09:51 PM 1977 Views
Stephenson is not literature, that's for damn sure. - 13/12/2011 05:49:24 PM 1824 Views
Thank you, The Voice of Lews Therin. *NM* - 16/12/2011 05:14:42 AM 1106 Views
I'll leave it up to others to define as they wish against their self-conceptions of me - 10/12/2011 10:52:54 AM 2040 Views
that's alright. I really have no desire to stroke your twit-ego. *NM* - 10/12/2011 04:36:56 PM 878 Views
Considering the firestorm I appear to have touched off, that may be best. - 12/12/2011 12:57:49 PM 1961 Views
I know, John - 12/12/2011 04:27:04 PM 1887 Views
Re: I know, John - 12/12/2011 05:06:26 PM 2011 Views
As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% - 12/12/2011 06:33:52 PM 1883 Views
Re: As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% - 12/12/2011 07:13:37 PM 1944 Views
Same guy - 12/12/2011 07:26:13 PM 1987 Views
Ha! Excellent point. *NM* - 11/12/2011 03:44:52 AM 1025 Views
I have to agree. - 09/12/2011 10:54:06 PM 1970 Views
They're there for marketing - 10/12/2011 12:20:17 AM 1985 Views
Most of those comparisons are like that anyway - 10/12/2011 05:32:45 PM 2171 Views
Maybe if so much of the genre weren't crap derivative works it wouldn't be so common. *NM* - 11/12/2011 03:44:24 AM 1060 Views
To be fair, a lot of it isn't. - 11/12/2011 04:06:07 AM 1946 Views
I suspect that if it really isn't derivative it's not being compared to Tolkien in the first place. - 11/12/2011 04:18:57 AM 1869 Views
That's true. - 11/12/2011 11:08:01 AM 1838 Views
Maybe they mean something else by using his name. - 11/12/2011 03:50:15 AM 2024 Views
When they don't work, yes. - 11/12/2011 03:18:44 PM 1958 Views
The Tolkien fanaticism gets old. And yes, for me it is unreadable. - 11/12/2011 11:37:53 PM 1895 Views
Yes *NM* - 22/12/2011 07:08:38 PM 1141 Views

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