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i think you shouldn't judge a whole world's school programs on your school LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 11/12/2011 06:42:30 AM
Growing up, I was always strongly encouraged to read. In elementary school, we were sent home with required minutes of reading and, yes, it wasn't THAT strongly monitored (after all, your proof was just your parent signing off), but it was required. In middle school and in high school we read a good number of books. I grant that I was always in honors/AP classes, but my friends in the regular English classes were always reading books for class as well. I think the only time when I was actually reading MORE (versus just reading more complicated material) was in AP Composition, but that's because we read a lot of criticisms and analyses of books and short stories on top of what we were already reading.

I'm 23 and I'm not that far out of school. It has changed a lot and I think things have gone a bit downhill. My mom's a recently retired school teacher and even I have noticed a change vising her classroom. Nothing she's doing, but with the focus moved to testing, she's having to spend a lot more time on specific lessons. She used to set aside time for kids to read, draw, whatever, but she couldn't really do that any more. And she had BOOKS upon BOOKS in her classroom. Everything from just-learning books, to probably about 4th or 5th grade level books (she taught specifically 1st grade/remedial reading, but liked to give all her kids as many options as they wanted).

So...my point is that the picture you painted is not true all over. And that state is 50/50 for education, too.
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Aren't the Tolkien comparisons getting a little...old? - 09/12/2011 09:51:39 PM 2766 Views
The comparison bothers me, but not because Tolkien isn't relevant. - 09/12/2011 10:05:22 PM 1637 Views
I agree with this. - 09/12/2011 10:21:34 PM 1661 Views
Re: I agree with this. - 10/12/2011 07:09:33 PM 1609 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/12/2011 12:09:19 PM 805 Views
Only when shit works are being compared to him - 09/12/2011 10:22:26 PM 1541 Views
Larry, - 10/12/2011 01:13:18 AM 1556 Views
Snide dismissal that will be passed off as for his own entertainment. - 10/12/2011 04:55:43 AM 1458 Views
We get a lot of that around here. *NM* - 10/12/2011 05:18:01 AM 600 Views
makes me wonder... - 10/12/2011 04:37:33 PM 1445 Views
Re: makes me wonder... - 11/12/2011 03:03:15 AM 1424 Views
Well-deserved condescension. - 11/12/2011 03:54:27 AM 1587 Views
You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 04:20:26 AM 1814 Views
Re: You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 05:25:08 AM 1540 Views
Re: You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 06:03:02 AM 1407 Views
i think you shouldn't judge a whole world's school programs on your school - 11/12/2011 06:42:30 AM 1447 Views
Yeah, I'm limited in my knowledge, lol - 11/12/2011 08:03:26 AM 1466 Views
My school was...not great. - 11/12/2011 04:02:36 PM 1491 Views
I'm 24. - 11/12/2011 03:49:06 PM 1415 Views
If you're arguing that children should be able to read genre fiction, fine. - 11/12/2011 08:52:27 PM 1331 Views
Well, I suppose it depends on the type of genre being read - 11/12/2011 09:36:16 PM 1581 Views
How often do you hear the challenging writers mentioned at this site? - 12/12/2011 02:03:05 PM 1308 Views
Only when you, me, and a couple others write reviews - 12/12/2011 04:21:14 PM 1698 Views
Oh, it was the same as it always is - 12/12/2011 05:23:56 PM 1419 Views
True - 12/12/2011 06:29:10 PM 1478 Views
One note - 13/12/2011 12:17:48 AM 1505 Views
Perhaps - 13/12/2011 12:49:34 AM 1436 Views
*Sighs* Such is the plight of those shining few intelects... - 23/12/2011 01:15:47 AM 1496 Views
Much of the actual "Classics", that is, Greek and Latin originals, kids would eat up. - 12/12/2011 03:13:03 AM 1320 Views
Try teaching Apuleius in schools... *NM* - 12/12/2011 04:12:49 AM 724 Views
Plato is exciting, brutal and scandalous? - 12/12/2011 09:59:13 PM 1381 Views
You're upfront and honest about it; he isn't. The difference matters to me. *NM* - 11/12/2011 05:18:42 AM 771 Views
Uhh...uh... - 11/12/2011 05:34:23 AM 1417 Views
this is a bit off topic, but out of curiousity... - 11/12/2011 06:28:35 AM 1532 Views
There are no special snowflakes, are there? - 11/12/2011 09:39:21 PM 1337 Views
There are many way of widening one's horizons and broadening one's mind. - 11/12/2011 10:08:24 PM 1095 Views
I said as much in my comment - 11/12/2011 10:20:03 PM 1369 Views
What I don't like- - 12/12/2011 04:28:55 AM 1449 Views
Why don't you name something, then? - 12/12/2011 04:40:29 AM 1391 Views
Sure. - 13/12/2011 07:30:56 AM 1228 Views
Mentioning Ender's Game pretty much shot your argument in the foot. - 13/12/2011 02:02:59 PM 1341 Views
You dismiss the entire video game medium because many games lack value. - 13/12/2011 03:59:11 PM 1480 Views
You're like the McDonald's paid advocate trying to say Big Macs are actually healthy. - 13/12/2011 05:46:37 PM 1289 Views
McDonalds food is inherently unhealthy. - 13/12/2011 06:02:18 PM 1425 Views
For the sake of argument ... - 13/12/2011 04:09:51 PM 1333 Views
Stephenson is not literature, that's for damn sure. - 13/12/2011 05:49:24 PM 1281 Views
Thank you, The Voice of Lews Therin. *NM* - 16/12/2011 05:14:42 AM 789 Views
I'll leave it up to others to define as they wish against their self-conceptions of me - 10/12/2011 10:52:54 AM 1438 Views
that's alright. I really have no desire to stroke your twit-ego. *NM* - 10/12/2011 04:36:56 PM 579 Views
Considering the firestorm I appear to have touched off, that may be best. - 12/12/2011 12:57:49 PM 1437 Views
I know, John - 12/12/2011 04:27:04 PM 1326 Views
Re: I know, John - 12/12/2011 05:06:26 PM 1378 Views
As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% - 12/12/2011 06:33:52 PM 1322 Views
Re: As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% - 12/12/2011 07:13:37 PM 1400 Views
Same guy - 12/12/2011 07:26:13 PM 1428 Views
Ha! Excellent point. *NM* - 11/12/2011 03:44:52 AM 711 Views
I have to agree. - 09/12/2011 10:54:06 PM 1443 Views
They're there for marketing - 10/12/2011 12:20:17 AM 1410 Views
Most of those comparisons are like that anyway - 10/12/2011 05:32:45 PM 1543 Views
Maybe if so much of the genre weren't crap derivative works it wouldn't be so common. *NM* - 11/12/2011 03:44:24 AM 702 Views
To be fair, a lot of it isn't. - 11/12/2011 04:06:07 AM 1358 Views
I suspect that if it really isn't derivative it's not being compared to Tolkien in the first place. - 11/12/2011 04:18:57 AM 1314 Views
That's true. - 11/12/2011 11:08:01 AM 1304 Views
Maybe they mean something else by using his name. - 11/12/2011 03:50:15 AM 1376 Views
When they don't work, yes. - 11/12/2011 03:18:44 PM 1374 Views
The Tolkien fanaticism gets old. And yes, for me it is unreadable. - 11/12/2011 11:37:53 PM 1368 Views
Yes *NM* - 22/12/2011 07:08:38 PM 825 Views

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