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Mentioning Ender's Game pretty much shot your argument in the foot. Tom Send a noteboard - 13/12/2011 02:02:59 PM
Ender's Game is an entertaining book with a couple of neat ideas for thought, but both stylistically (the writing is TERRIBLE) and content-wise (it's extremely simplistic) it's so far into the fluff category that I sometimes wonder if Wheel of Time isn't better. There are lines in Ender's Game that actually make me want to retch. Card is a miserable writer with a few interesting ideas.

Just because a book (or a game) makes you think about something doesn't make it literature. I mean let's face it, The Cat in the Hat has a message (and the poetry worms its way into your brain), but that doesn't mean it's something that will broaden your horizons once you're past the age of, say, seven at most (and that's being generous).

As a brief aside, gaming IS a waste of time. By having to make fake decisions in a game where virtual characters will suffer either way, you're making a conscious decision to neglect a real life where the people around you might suffer from your absence. It's two or three hours less talking to people you care about, bettering yourself as a person (through education, skills or useful hobbies), or getting some exercise. As I said, there's nothing wrong with playing video games to relax every now and then, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you're accomplishing something or learning something worthwhile (unless you're playing something so educational it's unlikely to be fun).

I can't speak directly to the rest of the books you mentioned so I'm not going to comment on their value, but based on the statements you're making I think you're missing the point a bit. However, I'm not going to speculate any more than that because it would be disingenuous.

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Aren't the Tolkien comparisons getting a little...old? - 09/12/2011 09:51:39 PM 3196 Views
The comparison bothers me, but not because Tolkien isn't relevant. - 09/12/2011 10:05:22 PM 2033 Views
I agree with this. - 09/12/2011 10:21:34 PM 2097 Views
Re: I agree with this. - 10/12/2011 07:09:33 PM 2026 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/12/2011 12:09:19 PM 1071 Views
Only when shit works are being compared to him - 09/12/2011 10:22:26 PM 1973 Views
Larry, - 10/12/2011 01:13:18 AM 1984 Views
Snide dismissal that will be passed off as for his own entertainment. - 10/12/2011 04:55:43 AM 1860 Views
We get a lot of that around here. *NM* - 10/12/2011 05:18:01 AM 835 Views
makes me wonder... - 10/12/2011 04:37:33 PM 1872 Views
Re: makes me wonder... - 11/12/2011 03:03:15 AM 1825 Views
Well-deserved condescension. - 11/12/2011 03:54:27 AM 2020 Views
You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 04:20:26 AM 2274 Views
Re: You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 05:25:08 AM 1937 Views
Re: You're sure about that? - 11/12/2011 06:03:02 AM 1860 Views
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Yeah, I'm limited in my knowledge, lol - 11/12/2011 08:03:26 AM 1884 Views
My school was...not great. - 11/12/2011 04:02:36 PM 1901 Views
I'm 24. - 11/12/2011 03:49:06 PM 1831 Views
If you're arguing that children should be able to read genre fiction, fine. - 11/12/2011 08:52:27 PM 1732 Views
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How often do you hear the challenging writers mentioned at this site? - 12/12/2011 02:03:05 PM 1726 Views
Only when you, me, and a couple others write reviews - 12/12/2011 04:21:14 PM 2138 Views
Oh, it was the same as it always is - 12/12/2011 05:23:56 PM 1797 Views
True - 12/12/2011 06:29:10 PM 1919 Views
One note - 13/12/2011 12:17:48 AM 1923 Views
Perhaps - 13/12/2011 12:49:34 AM 1868 Views
*Sighs* Such is the plight of those shining few intelects... - 23/12/2011 01:15:47 AM 1927 Views
Much of the actual "Classics", that is, Greek and Latin originals, kids would eat up. - 12/12/2011 03:13:03 AM 1743 Views
Try teaching Apuleius in schools... *NM* - 12/12/2011 04:12:49 AM 949 Views
Plato is exciting, brutal and scandalous? - 12/12/2011 09:59:13 PM 1818 Views
You're upfront and honest about it; he isn't. The difference matters to me. *NM* - 11/12/2011 05:18:42 AM 1009 Views
Uhh...uh... - 11/12/2011 05:34:23 AM 1833 Views
this is a bit off topic, but out of curiousity... - 11/12/2011 06:28:35 AM 1956 Views
There are no special snowflakes, are there? - 11/12/2011 09:39:21 PM 1736 Views
There are many way of widening one's horizons and broadening one's mind. - 11/12/2011 10:08:24 PM 1515 Views
I said as much in my comment - 11/12/2011 10:20:03 PM 1734 Views
What I don't like- - 12/12/2011 04:28:55 AM 1877 Views
Why don't you name something, then? - 12/12/2011 04:40:29 AM 1820 Views
Sure. - 13/12/2011 07:30:56 AM 1643 Views
Mentioning Ender's Game pretty much shot your argument in the foot. - 13/12/2011 02:02:59 PM 1752 Views
You dismiss the entire video game medium because many games lack value. - 13/12/2011 03:59:11 PM 1899 Views
You're like the McDonald's paid advocate trying to say Big Macs are actually healthy. - 13/12/2011 05:46:37 PM 1665 Views
McDonalds food is inherently unhealthy. - 13/12/2011 06:02:18 PM 1877 Views
For the sake of argument ... - 13/12/2011 04:09:51 PM 1840 Views
Stephenson is not literature, that's for damn sure. - 13/12/2011 05:49:24 PM 1696 Views
Thank you, The Voice of Lews Therin. *NM* - 16/12/2011 05:14:42 AM 1030 Views
I'll leave it up to others to define as they wish against their self-conceptions of me - 10/12/2011 10:52:54 AM 1896 Views
that's alright. I really have no desire to stroke your twit-ego. *NM* - 10/12/2011 04:36:56 PM 802 Views
Considering the firestorm I appear to have touched off, that may be best. - 12/12/2011 12:57:49 PM 1820 Views
I know, John - 12/12/2011 04:27:04 PM 1731 Views
Re: I know, John - 12/12/2011 05:06:26 PM 1866 Views
As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% - 12/12/2011 06:33:52 PM 1724 Views
Re: As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% - 12/12/2011 07:13:37 PM 1793 Views
Same guy - 12/12/2011 07:26:13 PM 1840 Views
Ha! Excellent point. *NM* - 11/12/2011 03:44:52 AM 947 Views
I have to agree. - 09/12/2011 10:54:06 PM 1823 Views
They're there for marketing - 10/12/2011 12:20:17 AM 1836 Views
Most of those comparisons are like that anyway - 10/12/2011 05:32:45 PM 1990 Views
Maybe if so much of the genre weren't crap derivative works it wouldn't be so common. *NM* - 11/12/2011 03:44:24 AM 953 Views
To be fair, a lot of it isn't. - 11/12/2011 04:06:07 AM 1796 Views
I suspect that if it really isn't derivative it's not being compared to Tolkien in the first place. - 11/12/2011 04:18:57 AM 1729 Views
That's true. - 11/12/2011 11:08:01 AM 1693 Views
Maybe they mean something else by using his name. - 11/12/2011 03:50:15 AM 1867 Views
When they don't work, yes. - 11/12/2011 03:18:44 PM 1820 Views
The Tolkien fanaticism gets old. And yes, for me it is unreadable. - 11/12/2011 11:37:53 PM 1751 Views
Yes *NM* - 22/12/2011 07:08:38 PM 1075 Views

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