She hates Tolkien's writings to begin with ...
The_Muted_Grimaud Send a noteboard - 30/01/2012 06:34:29 AM
Here's a comments quote January 30th, 2012, at 11:41am
I mean, she's discussing a literary work she apparently would hate even if it didn't have all the appalling (to her) racist/sexist undertones.
You are talking about “great men” who, keep in mind, have no relevance to me. Like, zero. The founding fathers? I struggle to care. I mean, really, why should I. I wouldn’t be any worse off if the US didn’t exist today–possibly my part of the world would be better off, and other parts mightn’t have been treated to the “democracy” and “liberty” of bombs. Similarly, Tolkien isn’t “great” to me. I think his prose is dull, I don’t think he’s done anything meaningful beyond what other Oxford academics of his time did, and his fiction itself is culturally worthless. Fantasy might well have been a less shitty genre if he weren’t so prominent.
You’ll have to try something else. Sorry.
You’ll have to try something else. Sorry.
I mean, she's discussing a literary work she apparently would hate even if it didn't have all the appalling (to her) racist/sexist undertones.
The racist elements in Tolkien's writing
29/01/2012 01:31:02 PM
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She has some points, of course.
29/01/2012 02:25:32 PM
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Quite a few points
29/01/2012 02:40:45 PM
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I don't find the tone blunt; I find it leading, patronizing and often wrong or inferring too much.
30/01/2012 01:43:27 AM
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Agreed - reading it, I struggled to find any redeeming qualities
30/01/2012 07:32:58 PM
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Agreed, in general. The tremendous bad faith and sophistry turn me off, though.
29/01/2012 09:31:04 PM
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Mostly agreed with the article, but thought she undermined herself with her own racism.
29/01/2012 02:50:11 PM
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Just read your Twitter convo... nice try, but looks like wasted effort. *NM*
29/01/2012 10:37:08 PM
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Well, I'll be honest.
29/01/2012 10:34:46 PM
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Let me try to summarize some of her points with the invective filtered out, then.
29/01/2012 10:48:24 PM
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Thank you.
29/01/2012 11:10:13 PM
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What the hell, might as well go and play devil's advocate, right?
30/01/2012 04:50:30 PM
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I expected that.
30/01/2012 05:39:59 PM
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Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
30/01/2012 10:28:10 PM
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Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
31/01/2012 12:39:46 AM
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Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
31/01/2012 08:38:46 PM
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I <3 you, but there are several very key things we are not going to agree on.
31/01/2012 10:02:22 PM
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Hmm?
31/01/2012 10:10:22 PM
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Yeah. I got to reading Encyclopedia of Arda just now, and it told me the same thing.
31/01/2012 10:35:54 PM
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As a sort of group answer (I've been mostly absent from forums the past two days)
31/01/2012 10:45:55 PM
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I don't mind if you tell me I'm out of line here, but
31/01/2012 11:55:04 PM
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I'm rarely ever offended
01/02/2012 01:54:58 AM
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She was referring specifically to the Twitter "conversation" I had with the blogger.
01/02/2012 09:05:28 AM
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Yes.
01/02/2012 10:47:22 AM
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It makes me wonder what she thinks is happening in Zimbabwe, for example.
01/02/2012 11:13:11 AM
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I've been thinking about that.
01/02/2012 11:29:18 AM
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That blog post was mostly good, but the exception is a rather large one.
01/02/2012 08:35:57 PM
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What's a neckbeard? And why am I supposed to care? *NM*
30/01/2012 01:29:07 AM
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neckbeards are when the person (either intentionally or through misfortunate genetics)...
30/01/2012 03:21:09 AM
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She hates Tolkien's writings to begin with ...
30/01/2012 06:34:29 AM
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acrackedmoon is a racist, sexist bore. And I don't even like Tolkien. *NM*
30/01/2012 01:14:17 PM
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