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I've been thinking about that. nossy Send a noteboard - 01/02/2012 11:29:18 AM
Or what any white person experiences while in any country that isn't predominately white. If treated poorly for being white, what should I call that? If it's not racism... This really bothers me, because I'm certainly not trying to claim that white people are running around being racisted every few seconds. I'm just annoyed by the insinuation that racism against whites can't exist.

Exactly.

The thing is that I come from a country where there's a separate electoral role based on race, there are separate electorates based on race, there is a national representative rugby team based on race, and a political party based on race. You can CHOOSE to be on all of these if you are Maori - i.e. not White, or Chinese, or Japanese, etc - or you can choose not to be. It's a priviledge that is only extended to one race in that country. And that race isn't the all-powerful White "race".

I think that is really interesting, actually. I didn't realize there was such division.

And when I was going to university there were scholarships that I, as a poor citizen of my country, could not apply for because my skin wasn't the right colour.

I experienced that as well, but I had a certain amount of respect for it because of the imbalance of wealth that still exists. Not that I had any of that wealth, but whatever. :P

It seems that she thinks the whole world is the same, and everyone is the same across all countries.

Basically, she finds it difficult to distinguish between personal and ... "corporate" racism.

Yes. The world is not so black and white, if you'll excuse the pun.
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The racist elements in Tolkien's writing Larry - 29/01/2012 01:31:02 PM 2880 Views
She has some points, of course. Legolas - 29/01/2012 02:25:32 PM 1631 Views
Quite a few points Larry - 29/01/2012 02:40:45 PM 1786 Views
Re: Quite a few points Legolas - 29/01/2012 04:59:11 PM 1472 Views
I don't find the tone blunt; I find it leading, patronizing and often wrong or inferring too much. Tom - 30/01/2012 01:43:27 AM 1653 Views
Agreed - reading it, I struggled to find any redeeming qualities snoopcester - 30/01/2012 07:32:58 PM 1715 Views
Agreed, in general. The tremendous bad faith and sophistry turn me off, though. Dan - 29/01/2012 09:31:04 PM 1870 Views
Mostly agreed with the article, but thought she undermined herself with her own racism. Rebekah - 29/01/2012 02:50:11 PM 1690 Views
I wish I could agree with you, but I can't in full Larry - 29/01/2012 02:58:05 PM 1709 Views
I'm not bothered by the tone. Annoyance is justified. Rebekah - 29/01/2012 03:03:07 PM 1662 Views
Re: I wish I could agree with you, but I can't in full Macharius - 30/01/2012 02:11:07 PM 1644 Views
Do you really believe that? nossy - 30/01/2012 02:44:19 PM 1727 Views
Just read your Twitter convo... nice try, but looks like wasted effort. *NM* Legolas - 29/01/2012 10:37:08 PM 775 Views
Yes. nossy - 29/01/2012 10:41:15 PM 1367 Views
Oh, also: Rebekah - 29/01/2012 03:07:03 PM 1424 Views
Well, I'll be honest. nossy - 29/01/2012 10:34:46 PM 1584 Views
Let me try to summarize some of her points with the invective filtered out, then. Legolas - 29/01/2012 10:48:24 PM 1777 Views
Thank you. nossy - 29/01/2012 11:10:13 PM 1822 Views
What the hell, might as well go and play devil's advocate, right? Legolas - 30/01/2012 04:50:30 PM 1731 Views
I expected that. nossy - 30/01/2012 05:39:59 PM 1618 Views
Of course you did. I'm predictable that way. Legolas - 30/01/2012 10:28:10 PM 1656 Views
Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way. nossy - 31/01/2012 12:39:46 AM 1521 Views
Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way. Legolas - 31/01/2012 08:38:46 PM 1569 Views
I <3 you, but there are several very key things we are not going to agree on. nossy - 31/01/2012 10:02:22 PM 1976 Views
Oh. Legolas - 31/01/2012 11:07:52 PM 1628 Views
nossy - 01/02/2012 12:17:59 AM 1753 Views
Hmm? snoopcester - 31/01/2012 10:10:22 PM 1560 Views
Yeah. I got to reading Encyclopedia of Arda just now, and it told me the same thing. Legolas - 31/01/2012 10:35:54 PM 1435 Views
As a sort of group answer (I've been mostly absent from forums the past two days) Larry - 31/01/2012 10:45:55 PM 1853 Views
I don't mind if you tell me I'm out of line here, but nossy - 31/01/2012 11:55:04 PM 1653 Views
I'm rarely ever offended Larry - 01/02/2012 01:54:58 AM 1964 Views
She was referring specifically to the Twitter "conversation" I had with the blogger. Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:05:28 AM 1574 Views
Yes. nossy - 01/02/2012 10:47:22 AM 1815 Views
It makes me wonder what she thinks is happening in Zimbabwe, for example. Rebekah - 01/02/2012 11:13:11 AM 1815 Views
I've been thinking about that. nossy - 01/02/2012 11:29:18 AM 1591 Views
Re: I've been thinking about that. Rebekah - 01/02/2012 11:40:11 AM 1845 Views
We're nuts. nossy - 01/02/2012 03:09:15 PM 1572 Views
I know that nossy - 01/02/2012 11:15:48 AM 1665 Views
That blog post was mostly good, but the exception is a rather large one. Legolas - 01/02/2012 08:35:57 PM 1489 Views
Do you mean exception*S*? Macharius - 02/02/2012 04:27:03 AM 1618 Views
The Hobbit came out in 1937. Tom - 30/01/2012 01:35:45 AM 1514 Views
What's a neckbeard? And why am I supposed to care? *NM* Tom - 30/01/2012 01:29:07 AM 825 Views
neckbeards are when the person (either intentionally or through misfortunate genetics)... LadyLorraine - 30/01/2012 03:21:09 AM 1506 Views
She hates Tolkien's writings to begin with ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 30/01/2012 06:34:29 AM 1707 Views
The tone of the article is massively annoying DomA - 30/01/2012 06:45:19 AM 1724 Views
acrackedmoon is a racist, sexist bore. And I don't even like Tolkien. *NM* ranagrande - 30/01/2012 01:14:17 PM 1492 Views
I laughed while reading it A Deathwatch Guard - 30/01/2012 04:30:50 PM 1555 Views
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