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Re: I've been thinking about that. Rebekah Send a noteboard - 01/02/2012 11:40:11 AM
Or what any white person experiences while in any country that isn't predominately white. If treated poorly for being white, what should I call that? If it's not racism... This really bothers me, because I'm certainly not trying to claim that white people are running around being racisted every few seconds. I'm just annoyed by the insinuation that racism against whites can't exist.

Yup, that's what I was trying to get across in that fun Twitter episode.

The thing is that I come from a country where there's a separate electoral role based on race, there are separate electorates based on race, there is a national representative rugby team based on race, and a political party based on race. You can CHOOSE to be on all of these if you are Maori - i.e. not White, or Chinese, or Japanese, etc - or you can choose not to be. It's a priviledge that is only extended to one race in that country. And that race isn't the all-powerful White "race".

I think that is really interesting, actually. I didn't realize there was such division.

In part it's tradition so people don't want to get rid of it. I just imagine the fuss if other groups tried it, and thus see the inequality in it all. I'd prefer if we were all treated as New Zealanders, without any separation.

And when I was going to university there were scholarships that I, as a poor citizen of my country, could not apply for because my skin wasn't the right colour.

I experienced that as well, but I had a certain amount of respect for it because of the imbalance of wealth that still exists. Not that I had any of that wealth, but whatever. :P

I think it's damaging. If you want to make sure that poor Maori get assistance then you can make such assistance for ALL poor New Zealanders, not just those of a certain colour. It's good for the country as a whole, and doesn't foster resentment.

It seems that she thinks the whole world is the same, and everyone is the same across all countries.

Basically, she finds it difficult to distinguish between personal and ... "corporate" racism.

Yes. The world is not so black and white, if you'll excuse the pun.

I will, because I was going to use it earlier. :P
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The racist elements in Tolkien's writing - 29/01/2012 01:31:02 PM 2781 Views
She has some points, of course. - 29/01/2012 02:25:32 PM 1550 Views
Quite a few points - 29/01/2012 02:40:45 PM 1701 Views
Re: Quite a few points - 29/01/2012 04:59:11 PM 1373 Views
Mostly agreed with the article, but thought she undermined herself with her own racism. - 29/01/2012 02:50:11 PM 1614 Views
I wish I could agree with you, but I can't in full - 29/01/2012 02:58:05 PM 1620 Views
I'm not bothered by the tone. Annoyance is justified. - 29/01/2012 03:03:07 PM 1572 Views
Re: I wish I could agree with you, but I can't in full - 30/01/2012 02:11:07 PM 1557 Views
Do you really believe that? - 30/01/2012 02:44:19 PM 1627 Views
Just read your Twitter convo... nice try, but looks like wasted effort. *NM* - 29/01/2012 10:37:08 PM 730 Views
Yes. - 29/01/2012 10:41:15 PM 1271 Views
Oh, also: - 29/01/2012 03:07:03 PM 1330 Views
Well, I'll be honest. - 29/01/2012 10:34:46 PM 1483 Views
Let me try to summarize some of her points with the invective filtered out, then. - 29/01/2012 10:48:24 PM 1696 Views
Thank you. - 29/01/2012 11:10:13 PM 1719 Views
What the hell, might as well go and play devil's advocate, right? - 30/01/2012 04:50:30 PM 1644 Views
I expected that. - 30/01/2012 05:39:59 PM 1526 Views
Of course you did. I'm predictable that way. - 30/01/2012 10:28:10 PM 1567 Views
Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way. - 31/01/2012 12:39:46 AM 1419 Views
Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way. - 31/01/2012 08:38:46 PM 1487 Views
I <3 you, but there are several very key things we are not going to agree on. - 31/01/2012 10:02:22 PM 1889 Views
Oh. - 31/01/2012 11:07:52 PM 1537 Views
- 01/02/2012 12:17:59 AM 1680 Views
Hmm? - 31/01/2012 10:10:22 PM 1460 Views
Yeah. I got to reading Encyclopedia of Arda just now, and it told me the same thing. - 31/01/2012 10:35:54 PM 1350 Views
As a sort of group answer (I've been mostly absent from forums the past two days) - 31/01/2012 10:45:55 PM 1757 Views
I don't mind if you tell me I'm out of line here, but - 31/01/2012 11:55:04 PM 1565 Views
I'm rarely ever offended - 01/02/2012 01:54:58 AM 1805 Views
She was referring specifically to the Twitter "conversation" I had with the blogger. - 01/02/2012 09:05:28 AM 1497 Views
Yes. - 01/02/2012 10:47:22 AM 1691 Views
It makes me wonder what she thinks is happening in Zimbabwe, for example. - 01/02/2012 11:13:11 AM 1705 Views
I've been thinking about that. - 01/02/2012 11:29:18 AM 1483 Views
Re: I've been thinking about that. - 01/02/2012 11:40:11 AM 1752 Views
We're nuts. - 01/02/2012 03:09:15 PM 1486 Views
I know that - 01/02/2012 11:15:48 AM 1579 Views
That blog post was mostly good, but the exception is a rather large one. - 01/02/2012 08:35:57 PM 1401 Views
Do you mean exception*S*? - 02/02/2012 04:27:03 AM 1530 Views
The Hobbit came out in 1937. - 30/01/2012 01:35:45 AM 1414 Views
She hates Tolkien's writings to begin with ... - 30/01/2012 06:34:29 AM 1606 Views
The tone of the article is massively annoying - 30/01/2012 06:45:19 AM 1647 Views
I laughed while reading it - 30/01/2012 04:30:50 PM 1477 Views

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