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Basically, both get dubious kudos for trying something new by the dire standards of the day. Werthead Send a noteboard - 10/09/2012 11:38:22 PM
In the case of ICEWIND DALE, Salvatore addresses the fact that in the FORGOTTEN REALMS setting dark elves/drow are considered irredeemably 100% evil by virtue of their race. For the ten years prior to that, they were treated as such in almost every gaming product and novel they appeared in. Salvatore inverted that and used it to address - in baby steps perhaps - the topics of prejudice and racism. Not very effectively, perhaps, but by the standards of D&D fiction this was a cut above - if only minuscully above - the standard fare.

Plus it helps that the dark elf in question dual-wields cool swords and his barbarian mate single-handedly kills a dragon at one point.

The DRAGONLANCE books were unusual (again, by the very moderate standards of the day) in focusing on a morally ambiguous protagonist (Raistlin) and his being pulled back and forth between the forces of good and evil, law and order, reality and delusion. It's like BABY'S FIRST THOMAS COVENANT, only without an awkward early rape scene and with the single most annoying character in the history of reading (Tasselhoff 'Jar-Jar Before There Was A Jar-Jar' Burrfoot) inserted instead.
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This may be one of the most dire reviews you shall ever read - 09/09/2012 09:12:25 PM 2158 Views
Certainly one of the most original, you get points for that. - 09/09/2012 10:39:00 PM 1398 Views
Well... - 09/09/2012 10:57:25 PM 1390 Views
A review of a D&D bestiary could be more dire. - 09/09/2012 11:29:17 PM 1258 Views
Perhaps - 09/09/2012 11:50:20 PM 1370 Views
Hey now. Owlbears are awesome. - 11/09/2012 02:35:28 AM 1576 Views
That page is painful to behold - 11/09/2012 03:09:29 AM 1366 Views
They are popular as they are fun, easy reading books - 10/09/2012 12:11:24 AM 1345 Views
"Popular", "Fun," and "Easy" doesn't have to be equated with poorly-written - 10/09/2012 12:16:27 AM 1476 Views
Poorly written by what standard? - 10/09/2012 12:29:17 AM 1431 Views
By the standards of what I enjoyed as a nine year-old? - 10/09/2012 01:04:12 AM 1370 Views
So like I said, by the standards of Elitist Literary Snobs - 11/09/2012 12:03:08 AM 1473 Views
Nice attempt at sophistry, but alas, it fails - 11/09/2012 12:38:24 AM 1376 Views
Was that meant to make any sense? - 11/09/2012 01:43:13 AM 1522 Views
Re: Was that meant to make any sense? - 11/09/2012 01:54:23 AM 1363 Views
I'm with Wibble on this (big surprise) - 12/09/2012 03:07:53 PM 1481 Views
Heh. - 12/09/2012 03:43:52 PM 1508 Views
Pretty much so - 12/09/2012 04:19:35 PM 1502 Views
When did you put up that header? - 12/09/2012 04:35:20 PM 1387 Views
I didn't put it up - 12/09/2012 04:51:32 PM 1294 Views
I shall tread lightly so. - 12/09/2012 06:15:51 PM 1433 Views
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+6 health? What game are you playing? - 12/09/2012 07:52:52 PM 1327 Views
The Game of Life? - 12/09/2012 08:23:53 PM 1403 Views
Re: Pretty much so - 12/09/2012 08:50:57 PM 1409 Views
You apparently do not read my blog/reviews much - 12/09/2012 09:07:18 PM 1429 Views
Actually, I read them almost never - 13/09/2012 03:07:48 PM 1465 Views
I think my IQ dropped a little bit when I parsed what you said - 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM 1424 Views
Yep, your usual rebuttal... *NM* - 17/09/2012 02:14:56 PM 689 Views
No, not really - 17/09/2012 06:25:15 PM 1240 Views
Yes, Yes, wrap yourself in arrogance and declare yourself correct until your opposite gets bored... - 17/09/2012 11:12:17 PM 1550 Views
Nah, I just wipe my ass with arrogance - 18/09/2012 12:23:44 AM 1793 Views
The last word with me is rather difficult to obtain - 18/09/2012 02:48:03 PM 1325 Views
Don't try to argue with them. They've made their judgments. They are better than you. - 10/09/2012 09:36:17 PM 1380 Views
Defensive much? *NM* - 10/09/2012 10:31:17 PM 747 Views
He never said you couldn't enjoy it. - 10/09/2012 11:10:11 PM 1495 Views
Indeed - 10/09/2012 11:17:20 PM 1376 Views
But they aren't. - 10/09/2012 11:48:14 PM 1415 Views
Prove it. *NM* - 11/09/2012 03:12:17 AM 677 Views
He also went on to compare liking the books to having the standards of a nine-year-old. - 11/09/2012 02:34:18 AM 1362 Views
You didn't read what I said very well then - 11/09/2012 03:16:21 AM 1361 Views
I believe that they were not meant for adults. - 10/09/2012 12:30:05 AM 1380 Views
Basically, both get dubious kudos for trying something new by the dire standards of the day. - 10/09/2012 11:38:22 PM 1394 Views
Interesting point - 11/09/2012 12:41:01 AM 1359 Views
Are you aware of the game's alignment rules? Some of the novels struggle with this. - 12/09/2012 10:58:37 PM 1372 Views
Not aware of it at all until now - 12/09/2012 11:18:57 PM 1362 Views
How is that possible? - 12/09/2012 11:28:33 PM 1318 Views
My dad was (and is) influenced by Evangelicals - 13/09/2012 12:17:36 AM 1266 Views
Wait, so you didn't read the Chronicles first? - 13/09/2012 02:12:13 PM 1268 Views
No - 13/09/2012 02:18:03 PM 1342 Views
Well, it's sort of like starting Jordan at Lord of Chaos - 13/09/2012 05:18:23 PM 1333 Views
Oddly enough, I started WoT at CoS in November 1997 - 13/09/2012 05:56:04 PM 1292 Views
Chronicles is considerably weaker - 13/09/2012 11:14:38 PM 1367 Views
12 modules, not 15 - 14/09/2012 02:55:39 PM 1498 Views
These threads are so much better than the rape threads! *NM* - 12/09/2012 04:03:01 AM 771 Views
You're just waiting to see if I'll use hexameter in the next one *NM* - 12/09/2012 04:32:31 AM 615 Views
When do we get to see some alexandrines? *NM* - 12/09/2012 12:41:29 PM 700 Views
Or quatrains? - 12/09/2012 03:25:13 PM 1260 Views
At least you didn't read the Baldur's Gate novelizations - 14/09/2012 04:29:17 AM 1286 Views
Sssssh! - 14/09/2012 05:10:19 AM 1356 Views
People become lesbians for no reason! - 17/09/2012 04:34:20 PM 1216 Views
I think my IQ dropped further upon learning of this - 17/09/2012 06:29:29 PM 1263 Views
Baldurs Gate wooooo! - 14/09/2012 04:13:34 PM 1411 Views
Is the review dire because of the subject or the sonnet form? - 14/09/2012 04:24:37 PM 1326 Views
Both - 14/09/2012 04:36:59 PM 1300 Views
it would be unusual for someone to just randomly pick books like that up - 14/09/2012 05:05:37 PM 1560 Views
Interesting scenario - 14/09/2012 10:16:11 PM 1323 Views
Re: Interesting scenario - 15/09/2012 09:55:59 AM 1525 Views
Re: Interesting scenario - 17/09/2012 06:28:57 PM 1255 Views

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