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Needless to say, once I finish reading the Icewind Dale trilogy, I'm done with D&D Larry Send a noteboard - 14/09/2012 12:38:47 AM
Because if I remember, the reader was pretty much knocked over the head with Raistlin's change to evil.


I only read what Dunja "suggested" to me, if I wanted to understand her fascination with Raistlin. Considering she thinks this particular trilogy is the "pinnacle" of D&D, I shudder to consider how bad the other novels in this setting are xx(


CHRONICLES is literally a succession of game modules - 15 of them, I believe - turned into three books. However, they didn't have space in the novels to cover them, so you have these slightly odd bits where major chunks of plot happen off-screen between chapters.

My abiding memory of the trilogy is a sequence in which the characters meet some gnomes who lived in fear of a fake dragon made of wicker and their female leader fell in love with Raistlin. It was a particularly random storyline.

Also, LEGENDS is definitely not the pinnacle of D&D fiction. The best piece of D&D fiction is PLANESCAPE: TORMENT, which as a computer game probably falls outside your remit (though worth a look as it is probably the single most literary computer game ever written, bar none). Lynn Abbey's novel I mentioned earlier is also quite a lot better.


Interesting backstory to the older trilogy and to what may be better than Legends. I'd have to ask her if she's played the computer game or read this other book; I suspect not for the former and don't know for the latter.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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This may be one of the most dire reviews you shall ever read Larry - 09/09/2012 09:12:25 PM 1971 Views
Certainly one of the most original, you get points for that. Legolas - 09/09/2012 10:39:00 PM 1233 Views
Well... Larry - 09/09/2012 10:57:25 PM 1226 Views
A review of a D&D bestiary could be more dire. Stephen - 09/09/2012 11:29:17 PM 1090 Views
Perhaps Larry - 09/09/2012 11:50:20 PM 1190 Views
Hey now. Owlbears are awesome. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:35:28 AM 1377 Views
That page is painful to behold Stephen - 11/09/2012 03:09:29 AM 1221 Views
They are popular as they are fun, easy reading books Wibble - 10/09/2012 12:11:24 AM 1169 Views
"Popular", "Fun," and "Easy" doesn't have to be equated with poorly-written Larry - 10/09/2012 12:16:27 AM 1315 Views
Poorly written by what standard? Wibble - 10/09/2012 12:29:17 AM 1247 Views
By the standards of what I enjoyed as a nine year-old? Larry - 10/09/2012 01:04:12 AM 1207 Views
So like I said, by the standards of Elitist Literary Snobs Wibble - 11/09/2012 12:03:08 AM 1311 Views
Nice attempt at sophistry, but alas, it fails Larry - 11/09/2012 12:38:24 AM 1190 Views
Was that meant to make any sense? Wibble - 11/09/2012 01:43:13 AM 1328 Views
Re: Was that meant to make any sense? Larry - 11/09/2012 01:54:23 AM 1213 Views
I'm with Wibble on this (big surprise) HyogaRott - 12/09/2012 03:07:53 PM 1317 Views
Heh. James - 12/09/2012 03:43:52 PM 1334 Views
Pretty much so Larry - 12/09/2012 04:19:35 PM 1331 Views
When did you put up that header? Stephen - 12/09/2012 04:35:20 PM 1225 Views
I didn't put it up Larry - 12/09/2012 04:51:32 PM 1120 Views
I shall tread lightly so. Stephen - 12/09/2012 06:15:51 PM 1260 Views
Larry - 12/09/2012 07:25:29 PM 1111 Views
+6 health? What game are you playing? Tom - 12/09/2012 07:52:52 PM 1142 Views
The Game of Life? Larry - 12/09/2012 08:23:53 PM 1239 Views
Re: Pretty much so HyogaRott - 12/09/2012 08:50:57 PM 1233 Views
You apparently do not read my blog/reviews much Larry - 12/09/2012 09:07:18 PM 1259 Views
Actually, I read them almost never HyogaRott - 13/09/2012 03:07:48 PM 1303 Views
I think my IQ dropped a little bit when I parsed what you said Larry - 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM 1254 Views
Yep, your usual rebuttal... *NM* HyogaRott - 17/09/2012 02:14:56 PM 620 Views
No, not really Larry - 17/09/2012 06:25:15 PM 1091 Views
Yes, Yes, wrap yourself in arrogance and declare yourself correct until your opposite gets bored... HyogaRott - 17/09/2012 11:12:17 PM 1382 Views
Nah, I just wipe my ass with arrogance Larry - 18/09/2012 12:23:44 AM 1560 Views
The last word with me is rather difficult to obtain HyogaRott - 18/09/2012 02:48:03 PM 1152 Views
Don't try to argue with them. They've made their judgments. They are better than you. lord-of-shadow - 10/09/2012 09:36:17 PM 1225 Views
Defensive much? *NM* Larry - 10/09/2012 10:31:17 PM 672 Views
Perhaps. It's annoying, because I tend to agree with you guys - you and Tom and Stephen. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:32:28 AM 1198 Views
The odd thing that there wasn't any belittling on my part -see other response. *NM* Larry - 11/09/2012 03:17:36 AM 624 Views
For the record, I wasn't trying to be condescending in my response. Tom - 11/09/2012 05:52:29 PM 1214 Views
He never said you couldn't enjoy it. Stephen - 10/09/2012 11:10:11 PM 1354 Views
Indeed Larry - 10/09/2012 11:17:20 PM 1205 Views
But they aren't. Wibble - 10/09/2012 11:48:14 PM 1251 Views
Prove it. *NM* Stephen - 11/09/2012 03:12:17 AM 605 Views
He also went on to compare liking the books to having the standards of a nine-year-old. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:34:18 AM 1207 Views
You didn't read what I said very well then Larry - 11/09/2012 03:16:21 AM 1226 Views
You're right. In the context of this thread, I'm basically acting like a raving lunatic. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:48:19 PM 1225 Views
It's not like any of us have ever been innocent 100% of the time Larry - 11/09/2012 03:49:22 PM 1167 Views
I believe that they were not meant for adults. Tom - 10/09/2012 12:30:05 AM 1209 Views
Very few of my friends were reading the books; some played the game, though Larry - 10/09/2012 01:06:07 AM 1184 Views
Basically, both get dubious kudos for trying something new by the dire standards of the day. Werthead - 10/09/2012 11:38:22 PM 1220 Views
Interesting point Larry - 11/09/2012 12:41:01 AM 1168 Views
Are you aware of the game's alignment rules? Some of the novels struggle with this. Werthead - 12/09/2012 10:58:37 PM 1192 Views
Not aware of it at all until now Larry - 12/09/2012 11:18:57 PM 1200 Views
How is that possible? Tom - 12/09/2012 11:28:33 PM 1128 Views
My dad was (and is) influenced by Evangelicals Larry - 13/09/2012 12:17:36 AM 1104 Views
Wait, so you didn't read the Chronicles first? Tom - 13/09/2012 02:12:13 PM 1099 Views
No Larry - 13/09/2012 02:18:03 PM 1171 Views
Well, it's sort of like starting Jordan at Lord of Chaos Tom - 13/09/2012 05:18:23 PM 1168 Views
Oddly enough, I started WoT at CoS in November 1997 Larry - 13/09/2012 05:56:04 PM 1121 Views
Chronicles is considerably weaker Werthead - 13/09/2012 11:14:38 PM 1197 Views
Needless to say, once I finish reading the Icewind Dale trilogy, I'm done with D&D Larry - 14/09/2012 12:38:47 AM 1307 Views
12 modules, not 15 Tom - 14/09/2012 02:55:39 PM 1337 Views
These threads are so much better than the rape threads! *NM* Dan - 12/09/2012 04:03:01 AM 689 Views
You're just waiting to see if I'll use hexameter in the next one *NM* Larry - 12/09/2012 04:32:31 AM 540 Views
When do we get to see some alexandrines? *NM* Stephen - 12/09/2012 12:41:29 PM 629 Views
Or quatrains? Larry - 12/09/2012 03:25:13 PM 1092 Views
And having now finished Dragonlance: Legends, its very own sonnet Larry - 13/09/2012 12:31:51 PM 1208 Views
At least you didn't read the Baldur's Gate novelizations beetnemesis - 14/09/2012 04:29:17 AM 1121 Views
Sssssh! Larry - 14/09/2012 05:10:19 AM 1180 Views
People become lesbians for no reason! beetnemesis - 17/09/2012 04:34:20 PM 1046 Views
I think my IQ dropped further upon learning of this Larry - 17/09/2012 06:29:29 PM 1090 Views
Baldurs Gate wooooo! Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:13:34 PM 1224 Views
Eh, Star Wars Expanded Universe I could see reading. Some of them are supposed to be good beetnemesis - 17/09/2012 04:37:05 PM 1546 Views
Is the review dire because of the subject or the sonnet form? Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:24:37 PM 1154 Views
Both Larry - 14/09/2012 04:36:59 PM 1135 Views
it would be unusual for someone to just randomly pick books like that up Foxhead - 14/09/2012 05:05:37 PM 1399 Views
Interesting scenario Larry - 14/09/2012 10:16:11 PM 1159 Views
Re: Interesting scenario Foxhead - 15/09/2012 09:55:59 AM 1344 Views
Re: Interesting scenario Larry - 17/09/2012 06:28:57 PM 1089 Views
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