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Needless to say, once I finish reading the Icewind Dale trilogy, I'm done with D&D Larry Send a noteboard - 14/09/2012 12:38:47 AM
Because if I remember, the reader was pretty much knocked over the head with Raistlin's change to evil.


I only read what Dunja "suggested" to me, if I wanted to understand her fascination with Raistlin. Considering she thinks this particular trilogy is the "pinnacle" of D&D, I shudder to consider how bad the other novels in this setting are xx(


CHRONICLES is literally a succession of game modules - 15 of them, I believe - turned into three books. However, they didn't have space in the novels to cover them, so you have these slightly odd bits where major chunks of plot happen off-screen between chapters.

My abiding memory of the trilogy is a sequence in which the characters meet some gnomes who lived in fear of a fake dragon made of wicker and their female leader fell in love with Raistlin. It was a particularly random storyline.

Also, LEGENDS is definitely not the pinnacle of D&D fiction. The best piece of D&D fiction is PLANESCAPE: TORMENT, which as a computer game probably falls outside your remit (though worth a look as it is probably the single most literary computer game ever written, bar none). Lynn Abbey's novel I mentioned earlier is also quite a lot better.


Interesting backstory to the older trilogy and to what may be better than Legends. I'd have to ask her if she's played the computer game or read this other book; I suspect not for the former and don't know for the latter.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

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This may be one of the most dire reviews you shall ever read Larry - 09/09/2012 09:12:25 PM 2387 Views
Certainly one of the most original, you get points for that. Legolas - 09/09/2012 10:39:00 PM 1635 Views
Well... Larry - 09/09/2012 10:57:25 PM 1642 Views
A review of a D&D bestiary could be more dire. Stephen - 09/09/2012 11:29:17 PM 1483 Views
Perhaps Larry - 09/09/2012 11:50:20 PM 1572 Views
Hey now. Owlbears are awesome. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:35:28 AM 1823 Views
That page is painful to behold Stephen - 11/09/2012 03:09:29 AM 1583 Views
They are popular as they are fun, easy reading books Wibble - 10/09/2012 12:11:24 AM 1561 Views
"Popular", "Fun," and "Easy" doesn't have to be equated with poorly-written Larry - 10/09/2012 12:16:27 AM 1803 Views
Poorly written by what standard? Wibble - 10/09/2012 12:29:17 AM 1646 Views
By the standards of what I enjoyed as a nine year-old? Larry - 10/09/2012 01:04:12 AM 1600 Views
So like I said, by the standards of Elitist Literary Snobs Wibble - 11/09/2012 12:03:08 AM 1668 Views
Nice attempt at sophistry, but alas, it fails Larry - 11/09/2012 12:38:24 AM 1612 Views
Was that meant to make any sense? Wibble - 11/09/2012 01:43:13 AM 1821 Views
Re: Was that meant to make any sense? Larry - 11/09/2012 01:54:23 AM 1610 Views
I'm with Wibble on this (big surprise) HyogaRott - 12/09/2012 03:07:53 PM 1694 Views
Heh. James - 12/09/2012 03:43:52 PM 1834 Views
Pretty much so Larry - 12/09/2012 04:19:35 PM 1788 Views
When did you put up that header? Stephen - 12/09/2012 04:35:20 PM 1627 Views
I didn't put it up Larry - 12/09/2012 04:51:32 PM 1526 Views
I shall tread lightly so. Stephen - 12/09/2012 06:15:51 PM 1641 Views
Larry - 12/09/2012 07:25:29 PM 1494 Views
+6 health? What game are you playing? Tom - 12/09/2012 07:52:52 PM 1547 Views
The Game of Life? Larry - 12/09/2012 08:23:53 PM 1608 Views
Re: Pretty much so HyogaRott - 12/09/2012 08:50:57 PM 1642 Views
You apparently do not read my blog/reviews much Larry - 12/09/2012 09:07:18 PM 1660 Views
Actually, I read them almost never HyogaRott - 13/09/2012 03:07:48 PM 1674 Views
I think my IQ dropped a little bit when I parsed what you said Larry - 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM 1633 Views
Yep, your usual rebuttal... *NM* HyogaRott - 17/09/2012 02:14:56 PM 828 Views
No, not really Larry - 17/09/2012 06:25:15 PM 1473 Views
Yes, Yes, wrap yourself in arrogance and declare yourself correct until your opposite gets bored... HyogaRott - 17/09/2012 11:12:17 PM 1752 Views
Nah, I just wipe my ass with arrogance Larry - 18/09/2012 12:23:44 AM 2007 Views
The last word with me is rather difficult to obtain HyogaRott - 18/09/2012 02:48:03 PM 1558 Views
Don't try to argue with them. They've made their judgments. They are better than you. lord-of-shadow - 10/09/2012 09:36:17 PM 1590 Views
Defensive much? *NM* Larry - 10/09/2012 10:31:17 PM 867 Views
Perhaps. It's annoying, because I tend to agree with you guys - you and Tom and Stephen. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:32:28 AM 1595 Views
The odd thing that there wasn't any belittling on my part -see other response. *NM* Larry - 11/09/2012 03:17:36 AM 783 Views
For the record, I wasn't trying to be condescending in my response. Tom - 11/09/2012 05:52:29 PM 1604 Views
He never said you couldn't enjoy it. Stephen - 10/09/2012 11:10:11 PM 1718 Views
Indeed Larry - 10/09/2012 11:17:20 PM 1582 Views
But they aren't. Wibble - 10/09/2012 11:48:14 PM 1617 Views
Prove it. *NM* Stephen - 11/09/2012 03:12:17 AM 794 Views
He also went on to compare liking the books to having the standards of a nine-year-old. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:34:18 AM 1580 Views
You didn't read what I said very well then Larry - 11/09/2012 03:16:21 AM 1573 Views
You're right. In the context of this thread, I'm basically acting like a raving lunatic. lord-of-shadow - 11/09/2012 02:48:19 PM 1611 Views
It's not like any of us have ever been innocent 100% of the time Larry - 11/09/2012 03:49:22 PM 1583 Views
I believe that they were not meant for adults. Tom - 10/09/2012 12:30:05 AM 1607 Views
Very few of my friends were reading the books; some played the game, though Larry - 10/09/2012 01:06:07 AM 1575 Views
Basically, both get dubious kudos for trying something new by the dire standards of the day. Werthead - 10/09/2012 11:38:22 PM 1636 Views
Interesting point Larry - 11/09/2012 12:41:01 AM 1571 Views
Are you aware of the game's alignment rules? Some of the novels struggle with this. Werthead - 12/09/2012 10:58:37 PM 1635 Views
Not aware of it at all until now Larry - 12/09/2012 11:18:57 PM 1589 Views
How is that possible? Tom - 12/09/2012 11:28:33 PM 1568 Views
My dad was (and is) influenced by Evangelicals Larry - 13/09/2012 12:17:36 AM 1492 Views
Wait, so you didn't read the Chronicles first? Tom - 13/09/2012 02:12:13 PM 1495 Views
No Larry - 13/09/2012 02:18:03 PM 1554 Views
Well, it's sort of like starting Jordan at Lord of Chaos Tom - 13/09/2012 05:18:23 PM 1594 Views
Oddly enough, I started WoT at CoS in November 1997 Larry - 13/09/2012 05:56:04 PM 1505 Views
Chronicles is considerably weaker Werthead - 13/09/2012 11:14:38 PM 1583 Views
Needless to say, once I finish reading the Icewind Dale trilogy, I'm done with D&D Larry - 14/09/2012 12:38:47 AM 1726 Views
12 modules, not 15 Tom - 14/09/2012 02:55:39 PM 1769 Views
These threads are so much better than the rape threads! *NM* Dan - 12/09/2012 04:03:01 AM 895 Views
You're just waiting to see if I'll use hexameter in the next one *NM* Larry - 12/09/2012 04:32:31 AM 721 Views
When do we get to see some alexandrines? *NM* Stephen - 12/09/2012 12:41:29 PM 793 Views
Or quatrains? Larry - 12/09/2012 03:25:13 PM 1468 Views
And having now finished Dragonlance: Legends, its very own sonnet Larry - 13/09/2012 12:31:51 PM 1571 Views
At least you didn't read the Baldur's Gate novelizations beetnemesis - 14/09/2012 04:29:17 AM 1507 Views
Sssssh! Larry - 14/09/2012 05:10:19 AM 1561 Views
People become lesbians for no reason! beetnemesis - 17/09/2012 04:34:20 PM 1430 Views
I think my IQ dropped further upon learning of this Larry - 17/09/2012 06:29:29 PM 1451 Views
Baldurs Gate wooooo! Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:13:34 PM 1691 Views
Eh, Star Wars Expanded Universe I could see reading. Some of them are supposed to be good beetnemesis - 17/09/2012 04:37:05 PM 1936 Views
Is the review dire because of the subject or the sonnet form? Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:24:37 PM 1614 Views
Both Larry - 14/09/2012 04:36:59 PM 1530 Views
it would be unusual for someone to just randomly pick books like that up Foxhead - 14/09/2012 05:05:37 PM 1838 Views
Interesting scenario Larry - 14/09/2012 10:16:11 PM 1537 Views
Re: Interesting scenario Foxhead - 15/09/2012 09:55:59 AM 1797 Views
Re: Interesting scenario Larry - 17/09/2012 06:28:57 PM 1451 Views
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