Given the Clute/Grant Encyclopedia of Fantasy can't seem to settle on one in 1.5 million words and 6,000 entries (and their own three-page definition of 'FANTASY' includes numerous caveats and exceptions), I don't really see anyone else coming up with one that works satisfyingly either, especially when you factor in people arguing if the magic realists should be on there or not: Clute & Grant lean towards inclusion of works with undeniable fantastical elements, but seem divided over works where the characters' own delusions and fantasies play a major role in proceedings.
You then have something like Christopher Priest's THE AFFIRMATION, where the entire fantasy story takes place in the main character's head, but the fantasy story is incredibly vivid, takes place in a richly detailed secondary world and events within that world are given tremendous resonance and importance. Priest dodges the bullet on that one by introducing enough doubt into the finale to make it appear that the main character is actually a native of the secondary world and has dreamed/fantasised our world into existence instead, which would make it indisputably of the fantasy genre.
You then have something like Christopher Priest's THE AFFIRMATION, where the entire fantasy story takes place in the main character's head, but the fantasy story is incredibly vivid, takes place in a richly detailed secondary world and events within that world are given tremendous resonance and importance. Priest dodges the bullet on that one by introducing enough doubt into the finale to make it appear that the main character is actually a native of the secondary world and has dreamed/fantasised our world into existence instead, which would make it indisputably of the fantasy genre.
Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read?
- 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM
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A lot of those books aren't fantasy.
- 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM
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Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it
- 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM
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Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM*
- 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM
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Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales
- 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM
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Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen,
- 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM
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I'm a bit different than that
- 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM
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Re: I'm a bit different than that
- 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM
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Then what should it be defined as?
- 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM
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What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues?
- 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM
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- 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM
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I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes
- 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM
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- 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM
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You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in.
- 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM
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- 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM
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Fantasy has no easy definition.
- 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM
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That's true.
- 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM
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If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value
- 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM
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Remember what I studied for my grad degree
- 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM
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Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree
- 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM
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Really?
- 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM
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Re: Really?
- 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM
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Literature does not exist in a vacuum
- 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM
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Obviously I know that
- 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM
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I've read 34.
- 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM
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- 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM
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Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess
- 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM
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78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point.
- 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM
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Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably
- 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM
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According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one...
- 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM
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46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy.
- 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM
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You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list?
- 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM
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- 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM
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Jane Eyre?
- 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM
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It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts
- 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM
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Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy
- 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM
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Devise a better?
- 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM
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It would be much shorter
- 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM
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It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed
- 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM
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- 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM
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You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post.
- 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM
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No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list
- 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM
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I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy.
- 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM
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96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really!
- 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM
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It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that
- 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM
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It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read
- 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM
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*NM*