I'm just merely acknowledging that and that literature is one of several ways that people relate their hopes, fears, dreams, and aspirations (among other things) for others to interpret and to consider. If that is hubris...strange...
It is when you reduce it to the material conditions that I get a problem.
When I say "material culture," I'm not thinking of materialism in the same sense that a traditional Marxist would. I'm referring to it being a physical manifestation of societal concerns, goals, etc. Nothing more than that. I'm too religious to be a materialist, after all
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read?
06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM
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A lot of those books aren't fantasy.
06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM
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Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it
06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM
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Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM*
06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM
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Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales
06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM
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Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen,
06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM
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I'm a bit different than that
06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM
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Re: I'm a bit different than that
07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM
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Then what should it be defined as?
07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM
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What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues?
07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM
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I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes
07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM
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You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in.
07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM
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Fantasy has no easy definition.
07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM
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That's true.
07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM
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If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value
06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM
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Remember what I studied for my grad degree
06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM
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Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree
06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM
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Really?
06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM
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Re: Really?
06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM
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Literature does not exist in a vacuum
06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM
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Obviously I know that
06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM
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But it is a material artifact of a culture
07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM
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But that is not all it is.
07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM
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I've read 34.
06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM
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Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess
06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM
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78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point.
06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM
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Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably
06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM
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According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one...
06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM
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46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy.
06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM
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You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list?
06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM
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Jane Eyre?
07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM
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It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts
07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM
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Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy
07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM
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Devise a better?
07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM
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It would be much shorter
07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM
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It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed
08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM
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You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post.
09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM
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No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list
09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM
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I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy.
07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM
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96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really!
07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM
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It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that
07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM
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It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read
30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM
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