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Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry Send a noteboard - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM
which appears to be happening here.


I view mimetic fiction, speculative fiction, religious tracts, Popsicle renderings of Madonna, etc. as being expressions of material culture. All of these divisions, arbitrary as they often are, are just as much of a list making as were the 72 parts of the divine language from the medieval period (itself an arbitrary thing ultimately).

As for the others that made this list, it originally started as being a fuzzy cloud of sorts, linking together thematic representations as much as anything else.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2187 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 728 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 698 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 213 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 633 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 866 Views
I agree - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 621 Views
I'm a bit different than that - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 680 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 702 Views
Then what should it be defined as? - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 772 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 466 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 589 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 616 Views
No, that was my second minor - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 554 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 602 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 663 Views
Not really - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 921 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 677 Views
That's true. - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 636 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 208 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 302 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 654 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 672 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 680 Views
Really? - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 803 Views
Re: Really? - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 749 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 460 Views
Obviously I know that - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 619 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 530 Views
But that is not all it is. - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 726 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 639 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 536 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 461 Views
I've read 34. - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 521 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 672 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 609 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 538 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 633 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 668 Views
I've read 28. - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 715 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 529 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 753 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 453 Views
Jane Eyre? - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 605 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 474 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 653 Views
Devise a better? - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 568 Views
It would be much shorter - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 838 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 588 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 315 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 595 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 702 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 703 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 330 Views
Oh,that - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 772 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 983 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 500 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 704 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 597 Views
I've read about 90 of them - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 857 Views

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