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I should have put "debate" in quotes. It's about four sentences long. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 08/04/2010 10:32:43 PM
My thought then is why are they irredeemable? Is it of their own choice? If yes, then that would qualify as the second category (refuses redemption). If no, they are irredeemable as influenced by an outside source/somthing not within their control then there is a difference.


Right. I think Voldemort falls into the second category. As, theologically, I think all the "damned" do.
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Harry Potter (the entire series) Jeordam - 06/04/2010 11:00:07 PM 2087 Views
Re: Harry Potter (the entire series) QueenOfAndor - 06/04/2010 11:29:49 PM 1343 Views
Really? Jeordam - 07/04/2010 05:41:46 PM 1418 Views
I honestly think it's a combination of the two beetnemesis - 07/04/2010 05:55:18 PM 1278 Views
I'll give you that.... Jeordam - 07/04/2010 06:11:27 PM 1339 Views
It does seem logical that the series gets more teenager-oriented as Harry grows older. Legolas - 07/04/2010 06:47:57 PM 1295 Views
Yeah, I believe she's explicitly said she did that on purpose beetnemesis - 10/04/2010 08:24:47 PM 1248 Views
Um...you forgot a book. aria - 06/04/2010 11:37:27 PM 1375 Views
My bad...much thanks for reminding me. Jeordam - 07/04/2010 05:43:53 PM 1309 Views
Re: Harry Potter (the entire series) DomA - 07/04/2010 12:26:22 AM 1656 Views
I get where you're coming from Jeordam - 07/04/2010 06:19:13 PM 1409 Views
That's kind of the point though... fionwe1987 - 07/04/2010 08:44:26 PM 1341 Views
This is how I see it too DomA - 08/04/2010 12:43:03 AM 1490 Views
just a comment about your rich=bad LadyLorraine - 08/04/2010 02:05:32 AM 1433 Views
Re: just a comment about your rich=bad DomA - 08/04/2010 05:58:13 PM 1445 Views
it was a bit black and white... LadyLorraine - 08/04/2010 08:48:05 PM 1244 Views
I agree with many of your points. Legolas - 07/04/2010 12:44:31 AM 1540 Views
I have to dispute the concept of going "too far." Ghavrel - 07/04/2010 06:32:47 AM 1291 Views
Hm, I don't know. Legolas - 07/04/2010 11:08:12 AM 1346 Views
This is a lot like the argument I'm having with Joel on the CMB concerning original sin. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:21:39 AM 1267 Views
Where is this debate? I'd like to read it. Jeordam - 08/04/2010 05:18:38 PM 1931 Views
I should have put "debate" in quotes. It's about four sentences long. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 10:32:43 PM 1245 Views
I agree entirely about Snape *NM* Camilla - 07/04/2010 11:50:00 AM 648 Views
More conversation on Snape. Jeordam - 07/04/2010 06:01:37 PM 1606 Views
His death wasn't very spectacular, but he did play an essential role... Legolas - 07/04/2010 06:45:58 PM 1479 Views
Brief comments on Magic, Dumbledore, and The Epilogue. Aemon - 07/04/2010 07:13:55 AM 1630 Views
Re: Brief comments on Magic, Dumbledore, and The Epilogue. Jeordam - 07/04/2010 06:09:20 PM 1470 Views
The movies are even worse about this. beetnemesis - 07/04/2010 06:15:35 PM 1347 Views
Hmmm.... Jeordam - 07/04/2010 06:21:40 PM 1321 Views
Oh, that's definitely why they did it beetnemesis - 09/04/2010 06:44:50 AM 1653 Views
how many high school relationships... LadyLorraine - 08/04/2010 02:13:48 AM 1323 Views
Death doesn't actually happen in slow-motion fit for the cinema screen. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:24:31 AM 1298 Views
Re: Death doesn't actually happen in slow-motion fit for the cinema screen. Camilla - 08/04/2010 03:27:09 PM 1327 Views
Re: Brief comments on Magic, Dumbledore, and The Epilogue. Camilla - 08/04/2010 03:25:38 PM 1447 Views
Harry Potter and Star Wars have two radically different approaches to this beetnemesis - 07/04/2010 06:13:25 PM 1566 Views
When my son asked for his own set of Harry Potter books, Beqi - 07/04/2010 10:26:37 PM 1365 Views
This is assuming of course... Jeordam - 07/04/2010 11:00:15 PM 1402 Views
yes, that's where parenting gets "complicated" LadyLorraine - 08/04/2010 02:16:06 AM 1321 Views
You are taking this a bit extreme I feel. Beqi - 08/04/2010 08:51:34 AM 1267 Views
I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/04/2010 06:11:06 PM 581 Views
Re: This is assuming of course... Camilla - 08/04/2010 03:30:33 PM 1465 Views
I am the same way with a few books. Beqi - 08/04/2010 08:05:04 PM 1319 Views
I was most irritated by the ironic names Tom - 08/04/2010 05:38:59 AM 1431 Views
Re: I was most irritated by the ironic names TaskmasterJack - 08/04/2010 10:07:40 PM 1858 Views
Sheriff Lobo wasn't a werewolf, either, and Bear wasn't a bear. Tom - 09/04/2010 12:47:48 AM 1258 Views
Exactly - it's not as obvious if you're a kid, then it seems clever and it's fun to decode. Legolas - 09/04/2010 01:04:11 AM 1414 Views
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