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No Bramhodoulos Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 12:53:42 AM
Nor should it be, since that would be a credit to the convincer, which is entirely the wrong orientation.


Believe me, as a 5-point calvinist there is nothing in me that longs for crediting the convinced, but doesn't Paul say: "For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry, "Abba! Father!" The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..." (Rom 8:15-16)

It is in Paul all over the place: "We know... therefor [we can be sure that]..." all building up to give security, building it on the promises of God. Not being convinced is, acc to Paul, inconcistent with the facts we know to be true thanks to the revealed truth by the Holy Spirit.

*Disclaimer, I do however believe that true believers can have honest doubts about their salvation and all, but I simply claim they don't have to*
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