Re: There used to be this thing called responsibility...
everynametaken Send a noteboard - 31/05/2010 07:50:17 PM
I regret its demise.
It makes no sense to offer government guaranteed loans for degrees which cannot generate income. It makes no sense for such loans to be automatic.
If I go into a bank and want a car loan, I need to have a job and I have to put the car up as collateral (usually).
No bank in their right mind would lend someone funds based on their decision to, say, get a Philosophy degree. Unless it was post-grad and they were planning on teaching. That's the ONLY way they'll ever get paid back in a timely fashion.
With rights, people, comes this thing called responsibility. If you don't have the one, you cannot have the other. There was a website I used to chat moderate years ago and the site owner wanted to make me a senior overall site moderator. She said, "So, want superpowers?" To which I said, "Thank you, but no." She about fell off her chair when I explained that if I took on that level of authority, with it came greatly increased responsibility and duty which I would NOT shirk. And, since time was an issue then as now, I didn't have enough time to do such a thing properly, so I declined.
That's responsibility, people. Don't borrow money you can't pay back. Don't take on a job you cannot do properly. Make sure you can do what you say.
Yes - we all fail. Yes, we all have tragedy happen now and again and yes, sometimes you need to take risks. But if you're going to take risks, don't take STUPID ones.
It makes no sense to offer government guaranteed loans for degrees which cannot generate income. It makes no sense for such loans to be automatic.
If I go into a bank and want a car loan, I need to have a job and I have to put the car up as collateral (usually).
No bank in their right mind would lend someone funds based on their decision to, say, get a Philosophy degree. Unless it was post-grad and they were planning on teaching. That's the ONLY way they'll ever get paid back in a timely fashion.
With rights, people, comes this thing called responsibility. If you don't have the one, you cannot have the other. There was a website I used to chat moderate years ago and the site owner wanted to make me a senior overall site moderator. She said, "So, want superpowers?" To which I said, "Thank you, but no." She about fell off her chair when I explained that if I took on that level of authority, with it came greatly increased responsibility and duty which I would NOT shirk. And, since time was an issue then as now, I didn't have enough time to do such a thing properly, so I declined.
That's responsibility, people. Don't borrow money you can't pay back. Don't take on a job you cannot do properly. Make sure you can do what you say.
Yes - we all fail. Yes, we all have tragedy happen now and again and yes, sometimes you need to take risks. But if you're going to take risks, don't take STUPID ones.
My cousin has a degree in philosophy and is doing very well for himself. But, he had a plan. He also learned Japanese fluently and left to live there and work for a very large company that specializes in teaching foreign languages. That is why I made the point to Random Thoughts that it is hard to say what is a "good" degree and a "worthless" degree. One can do a lot with a good plan.
Besides, the banks do not care what degree one is getting only that they pay the money back. They don't have the manpower to monitor what degrees someone is getting and regulate funds accordingly. There is no simple algorithm for such an action.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
- 30/05/2010 03:17:03 PM
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Added to which she sounds like a spoiled brat
- 30/05/2010 03:46:06 PM
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It's a column, not a real article... and it's more critical than you suggest.
- 30/05/2010 04:02:26 PM
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No it isn't.
- 30/05/2010 04:24:20 PM
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Re: No it isn't.
- 30/05/2010 04:56:42 PM
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Šertam aštakun
- 31/05/2010 04:14:28 AM
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Here's the saddest part ...
- 30/05/2010 06:10:48 PM
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Very bad life planning, and sadly, it's not an isolated case.
- 31/05/2010 04:01:46 AM
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Same. Humanities, while necessary, are something of a luxury given the numbers. *NM*
- 31/05/2010 07:35:25 AM
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Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
- 30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM
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Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra
- 31/05/2010 04:07:34 AM
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Re: Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra
- 31/05/2010 04:23:54 AM
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I don't see the point in a humanities major if you aren't planning to get more than a bachelor's.
- 31/05/2010 07:41:40 AM
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I have a BA in English Literature.
- 31/05/2010 11:20:28 AM
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that's fair enough, since that's why you took it
- 31/05/2010 10:20:36 PM
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Heh.
- 01/06/2010 09:30:53 AM
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I think you mean "the government acts all brokenhearted about the amount of student debt."
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- 01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM
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- 01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM
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That's kind of a weak reason, though.
- 31/05/2010 11:11:49 PM
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I'm pretty sure I didn't use that as my reason...
- 31/05/2010 11:15:32 PM
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That's true, although I don't know how many jobs that's useful for.
- 01/06/2010 01:20:29 AM
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That's fine. And I didn't go to Uni to get a job. I went for the education.
- 01/06/2010 09:29:28 AM
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I want to make clear that I, as a humanities major, really do like the humanities.
- 01/06/2010 09:37:39 AM
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- 01/06/2010 09:37:39 AM
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there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame
- 31/05/2010 01:58:39 AM
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Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame
- 31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM
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Forget morale, the entire concept is immoral.
- 31/05/2010 02:52:08 AM
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Nonsense.
- 31/05/2010 03:01:32 AM
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that's not what you're talking about though.
- 31/05/2010 04:40:45 AM
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Korea has that policy and look what a nice place that is...er, wait a minute... *NM*
- 31/05/2010 06:08:14 AM
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So do many democratic countries across the world. And your point is what? *NM*
- 31/05/2010 06:36:14 AM
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We can put a man on the moon but looking at job number is too complicated?
- 31/05/2010 04:03:38 PM
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yeah, i probably would've rethought that physics degree if there were such a program in place
- 31/05/2010 03:27:14 AM
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Physics degrees have a variety of applications.
- 31/05/2010 07:02:57 PM
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Re: Physics degrees have a variety of applications.
- 31/05/2010 07:59:22 PM
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you are near Denver right?
- 02/06/2010 09:33:06 PM
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at the time i was in wisconsin, never lived in denver before
- 03/06/2010 02:01:23 AM
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ugh. stupid twat.
- 31/05/2010 02:21:27 AM
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See, you have a plan.
- 31/05/2010 04:08:24 AM
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yah. she's a stupid twat. and as you've pointed out, not the only one.
- 31/05/2010 04:42:20 AM
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What a useless leech.
- 31/05/2010 02:53:24 AM
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She works for a photographer.
- 31/05/2010 03:03:44 AM
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There used to be this thing called responsibility...
- 31/05/2010 04:58:21 PM
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Re: There used to be this thing called responsibility...
- 31/05/2010 07:50:17 PM
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