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Re: There used to be this thing called responsibility... everynametaken Send a noteboard - 31/05/2010 07:50:17 PM
I regret its demise.

It makes no sense to offer government guaranteed loans for degrees which cannot generate income. It makes no sense for such loans to be automatic.

If I go into a bank and want a car loan, I need to have a job and I have to put the car up as collateral (usually).

No bank in their right mind would lend someone funds based on their decision to, say, get a Philosophy degree. Unless it was post-grad and they were planning on teaching. That's the ONLY way they'll ever get paid back in a timely fashion.

With rights, people, comes this thing called responsibility. If you don't have the one, you cannot have the other. There was a website I used to chat moderate years ago and the site owner wanted to make me a senior overall site moderator. She said, "So, want superpowers?" To which I said, "Thank you, but no." She about fell off her chair when I explained that if I took on that level of authority, with it came greatly increased responsibility and duty which I would NOT shirk. And, since time was an issue then as now, I didn't have enough time to do such a thing properly, so I declined.

That's responsibility, people. Don't borrow money you can't pay back. Don't take on a job you cannot do properly. Make sure you can do what you say.

Yes - we all fail. Yes, we all have tragedy happen now and again and yes, sometimes you need to take risks. But if you're going to take risks, don't take STUPID ones.


My cousin has a degree in philosophy and is doing very well for himself. But, he had a plan. He also learned Japanese fluently and left to live there and work for a very large company that specializes in teaching foreign languages. That is why I made the point to Random Thoughts that it is hard to say what is a "good" degree and a "worthless" degree. One can do a lot with a good plan.
Besides, the banks do not care what degree one is getting only that they pay the money back. They don't have the manpower to monitor what degrees someone is getting and regulate funds accordingly. There is no simple algorithm for such an action.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
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One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read - 30/05/2010 03:17:03 PM 1237 Views
Added to which she sounds like a spoiled brat - 30/05/2010 03:46:06 PM 928 Views
I think she's still slightly below the national average. - 30/05/2010 04:26:16 PM 705 Views
I am uncertain if she is working full time. - 31/05/2010 12:57:29 AM 788 Views
Have to agree here ... - 30/05/2010 05:54:54 PM 706 Views
It's a column, not a real article... and it's more critical than you suggest. - 30/05/2010 04:02:26 PM 706 Views
No it isn't. - 30/05/2010 04:24:20 PM 737 Views
Re: No it isn't. - 30/05/2010 04:56:42 PM 710 Views
Šertam aštakun - 31/05/2010 04:14:28 AM 619 Views
I'm going to guess that wasn't very nice. - 31/05/2010 12:11:43 PM 698 Views
Subject was Akkadian, body was Sumerian. - 31/05/2010 02:27:24 PM 640 Views
Here's the saddest part ... - 30/05/2010 06:10:48 PM 783 Views
Very bad life planning, and sadly, it's not an isolated case. - 31/05/2010 04:01:46 AM 653 Views
"the best laid plans of mice and men" etc etc - 31/05/2010 05:56:22 PM 654 Views
strange that you should be surprised - 04/06/2010 06:06:19 PM 702 Views
i don't think she's saying it's someone else's fault - 30/05/2010 09:08:29 PM 685 Views
Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read - 30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM 688 Views
Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra - 31/05/2010 04:07:34 AM 667 Views
Re: Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra - 31/05/2010 04:23:54 AM 658 Views
100% in your camp here. - 31/05/2010 04:35:45 AM 614 Views
I don't see the point in a humanities major if you aren't planning to get more than a bachelor's. - 31/05/2010 07:41:40 AM 815 Views
srsly. way to devalue a bachelor's degree, american society 9_9 - 31/05/2010 08:07:47 AM 615 Views
I have a BA in English Literature. - 31/05/2010 11:20:28 AM 737 Views
that's fair enough, since that's why you took it - 31/05/2010 10:20:36 PM 692 Views
Heh. - 01/06/2010 09:30:53 AM 656 Views
I think you mean "the government acts all brokenhearted about the amount of student debt." *NM* - 01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM 389 Views
Heh. True fact. *NM* - 01/06/2010 09:56:09 AM 261 Views
That's kind of a weak reason, though. - 31/05/2010 11:11:49 PM 644 Views
I'm pretty sure I didn't use that as my reason... - 31/05/2010 11:15:32 PM 666 Views
That's true, although I don't know how many jobs that's useful for. - 01/06/2010 01:20:29 AM 636 Views
That's fine. And I didn't go to Uni to get a job. I went for the education. - 01/06/2010 09:29:28 AM 822 Views
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I know. - 01/06/2010 09:55:41 AM 735 Views
If we're going down that path, though... - 31/05/2010 12:17:49 PM 777 Views
the bachelor requirement for professional programs... - 31/05/2010 10:22:27 PM 705 Views
Education is a form of signaling - 31/05/2010 11:02:36 PM 691 Views
I do. *NM* - 31/05/2010 11:08:27 PM 262 Views
Some of us had the best intentions and then sabotaged them - 02/06/2010 04:39:33 PM 718 Views
there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame - 31/05/2010 01:58:39 AM 631 Views
Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame - 31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM 681 Views
Forget morale, the entire concept is immoral. - 31/05/2010 02:52:08 AM 661 Views
Nonsense. - 31/05/2010 03:01:32 AM 686 Views
that's not what you're talking about though. - 31/05/2010 04:40:45 AM 695 Views
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That would be a less repulsive idea if it wasn't so very sexist. - 31/05/2010 12:19:54 PM 696 Views
Heh, had the same thought. - 31/05/2010 12:47:16 PM 589 Views
We can put a man on the moon but looking at job number is too complicated? - 31/05/2010 04:03:38 PM 776 Views
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physics BS is useless even I know that. - 31/05/2010 04:43:36 AM 585 Views
We hire people with physics degrees all the time - 31/05/2010 03:41:12 PM 589 Views
believe me, i tried - 31/05/2010 05:59:09 PM 634 Views
Physics degrees have a variety of applications. - 31/05/2010 07:02:57 PM 634 Views
Re: Physics degrees have a variety of applications. - 31/05/2010 07:59:22 PM 857 Views
you are near Denver right? - 02/06/2010 09:33:06 PM 649 Views
at the time i was in wisconsin, never lived in denver before - 03/06/2010 02:01:23 AM 642 Views
lots of high tech jobs in Texas - 04/06/2010 06:29:39 PM 622 Views
i had a tech job in texas, still no physics jobs though - 04/06/2010 07:10:29 PM 623 Views
ugh. stupid twat. - 31/05/2010 02:21:27 AM 682 Views
See, you have a plan. - 31/05/2010 04:08:24 AM 610 Views
yah. she's a stupid twat. and as you've pointed out, not the only one. - 31/05/2010 04:42:20 AM 645 Views
so stupid *NM* - 31/05/2010 02:35:19 AM 235 Views
What a useless leech. - 31/05/2010 02:53:24 AM 647 Views
She works for a photographer. - 31/05/2010 03:03:44 AM 663 Views
Women's Studies empowered her to make a victim out of herself. - 31/05/2010 05:00:38 AM 675 Views
It's not just the women - 31/05/2010 02:29:34 PM 637 Views
There used to be this thing called responsibility... - 31/05/2010 04:58:21 PM 672 Views
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