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and i haven't said that anywhere. LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 02:39:06 PM
and as I DID say above, you keep equating how cyclists behave on a HIGHWAY (or at high way speeds) with road riding and using that as basis for what should be done about it.
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I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Deadsy - 28/06/2010 05:44:45 AM 1847 Views
Ummm MalkierKnight - 28/06/2010 06:01:19 AM 1475 Views
Let me guess. You live in an American suburb. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2010 06:12:24 AM 626 Views
Yeah, the "sport" part gives that away even more than everything else... *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 08:06:03 AM 651 Views
seriously, you think people didn't use bikes as transportation anymore!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 08:26:36 AM 725 Views
LOL bikes? transportation? What?!??! get a car you european *NM* MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:14:58 AM 615 Views
Sorry, but no. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:17:20 AM 1286 Views
I think you missed the part... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:22:35 AM 1247 Views
That was offensive to cyclists. People who think like you are why so many of us die. *NM* Tim - 28/06/2010 08:28:24 AM 713 Views
Now that I've calmed down a bit, I'm going to actually address your points. Tim - 28/06/2010 12:16:10 PM 1627 Views
hey now! LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:18:16 PM 1140 Views
See apology below. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:34:17 AM 650 Views
it's okay dude i was just giving you a hard time *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:24:56 AM 643 Views
I understand that what he said offended you ßelals Girl - 28/06/2010 04:11:57 PM 1380 Views
You're right, I was stereotyping and getting a little ad hominem. I'm sorry. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:33:20 AM 682 Views
My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Aemon - 28/06/2010 04:12:42 PM 1250 Views
Re: My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:27:42 PM 1279 Views
If the bike had been invented today, you might be right. Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:08:44 PM 1373 Views
This point: Rebekah - 28/06/2010 06:37:32 PM 1338 Views
Not in the United States. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:25:56 PM 1318 Views
Highways are, of course, a different matter. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 07:32:50 PM 1284 Views
I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:34:04 PM 1387 Views
Re: I know Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:27:04 PM 1267 Views
Re: I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:38:14 PM 1379 Views
That makes me mad. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:46:58 PM 1352 Views
Don't be mad Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:52:47 PM 1200 Views
Re: I know lyringlas - 28/06/2010 09:15:22 PM 1352 Views
To your last question: Arlington County, VA MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:29:55 AM 1158 Views
It is illegal to drive on the shoulder. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:43:40 AM 1382 Views
i'm pretty sure bicycles are banned from almost all highways, regardless of access LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:34:00 PM 1160 Views
Maybe I should have said "modern roads." Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:20:55 PM 1346 Views
Perhaps. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:36:15 PM 1409 Views
I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Aemon - 28/06/2010 09:00:44 PM 1168 Views
Matters of degree, I suppose. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 09:07:40 PM 1172 Views
Yes, because that cyclist is SUCH a hazard to you in your car. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:03:05 AM 1305 Views
The central issue is people. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:52:22 AM 1289 Views
you keep talking about cyclists on highways as if it applied to all roads. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:37:31 PM 1388 Views
There are TWO equally important points there: Joel - 30/06/2010 01:15:17 AM 1362 Views
then why are you arguing with me? I said that the central issue is people being stupid. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 05:59:23 AM 651 Views
Pardon my saying so, but, no, you did not say that. Joel - 01/07/2010 08:01:10 AM 1323 Views
Re: I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Bored - 02/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1314 Views
Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:32:05 AM 1323 Views
...doesn't exist or is completely dysfunctional in a lot of places. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/06/2010 03:57:26 AM 691 Views
three words: share the road random thoughts - 30/06/2010 04:08:28 AM 1346 Views
Re: three words: share the road MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:03:54 AM 1399 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 30/06/2010 08:43:51 AM 1487 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:05:37 AM 1334 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:40:10 AM 1261 Views
How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Deadsy - 01/07/2010 08:52:45 AM 1349 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:30:43 AM 1288 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1352 Views
I'd say you have it exactly the wrong way round. Legolas - 01/07/2010 09:41:27 AM 1416 Views
You can't be serious. If you do think that's always (not just sometimes) a viable option, then... Tim - 30/06/2010 09:20:03 AM 1246 Views
Really? MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM 1087 Views
Have you heard of Britain? Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:38:11 AM 1312 Views
My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 06:00:22 AM 711 Views
Re: My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:08:02 AM 1300 Views
Outside of a highly urbanized area, I surmise. The entirety of the US is not like the East Coast. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/07/2010 02:11:01 AM 714 Views
My city doesn't have anything eather. *NM* Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:32:52 AM 794 Views
You do realize that... Jacob - 28/06/2010 08:38:39 PM 1321 Views
Bikers can be equally as rude, I agree. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:00:18 AM 1320 Views
heh Deadsy - 29/06/2010 04:45:46 AM 1326 Views
Despite your subject line, I'm glad to see that we agree with each other more than MK and I do. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:13:29 AM 1406 Views
Get your head on straight, you silly cyclist MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:02:58 AM 1185 Views
He never said there were no buses in our city. He said that, as a student, he can't afford them. *NM* Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:42:47 AM 656 Views
I'd say most urban areas have few roads with speed limits above 50 km/h (30mph) Floffe - 01/07/2010 10:35:20 AM 1229 Views
Now now, there's no need to be rude. Tim - 02/07/2010 12:04:16 AM 1393 Views
Re: Now now, there's no need to be rude. MalkierKnight - 04/07/2010 05:53:01 PM 1173 Views
What part of "there are no alternatives" don't you understand? Ghavrel - 04/07/2010 09:10:23 PM 1228 Views
What part of my post did you not read...? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:01:32 AM 1433 Views
I agree entirely. Camilla - 28/06/2010 05:27:36 PM 1437 Views
Really???? Amys - 28/06/2010 04:59:12 PM 1298 Views
that's always really annoying LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:27:07 AM 1469 Views
That's always upsetting. You just have to remember that some people are simply arseholes, and... Tim - 28/06/2010 11:41:22 AM 1220 Views
mmm maybe...or encourage him to actually hit the next cyclist LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:19:10 PM 1195 Views
Re: I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Macharius - 28/06/2010 03:25:22 PM 1120 Views
Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 04:58:50 PM 607 Views
I doubt it. *NM* Macharius - 28/06/2010 05:32:17 PM 564 Views
my daughter rides her bike on the sidewalk all the time random thoughts - 28/06/2010 06:07:01 PM 1312 Views
In Sweden we often have combined bike and walking paths a few meters to the side of the road Floffe - 28/06/2010 06:22:40 PM 1176 Views
True, those aren't really what I'd call sidewalks though. *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:07:15 PM 718 Views
Not sure, but BlackAdder - 28/06/2010 06:53:14 PM 1189 Views
That all depends on what kind of road, I guess. Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:09:52 PM 1310 Views
we actually have a lot of cyclists on one of our 50mph roads LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:08:31 AM 1230 Views
I would Deadsy - 28/06/2010 07:25:22 PM 1190 Views
You've alluded to that a few times now. Sareitha Sedai - 28/06/2010 07:42:05 PM 1173 Views
a lot of the time they do in smaller cities LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:05:38 AM 1092 Views
Of course. Most bikers not in the mid-size to larger cities do. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:06:03 AM 1159 Views
Re: Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? Bored - 02/07/2010 09:57:46 PM 1194 Views
That sucks random thoughts - 28/06/2010 04:34:35 PM 1132 Views
You have every right to be on the road. The guy was an ass. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:30:23 PM 1259 Views
Thankfully I live in a very bike-friendly city, though this sort of thing has still happened to me. *NM* Panorphaeon - 28/06/2010 07:56:59 PM 689 Views
that's because the central issues is not bike-friendly-ness. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:11:56 AM 1172 Views
I'm so glad I actually READ what you said before responding. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:16:25 AM 1321 Views
?? I thought it was matter of COURSE that bikes weren't allowed on the highway LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:27:06 AM 1268 Views
Should be, but it's not. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:59:35 AM 1256 Views
Question for you. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:22:13 AM 1106 Views
the law says they have to to ride in single file as close to curb as is practical random thoughts - 29/06/2010 03:31:55 PM 1176 Views
and i haven't said that anywhere. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:39:06 PM 1171 Views
That is what you get for living in Austin *NM* random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:38:20 PM 668 Views
about the driving on the shoulder thing random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:49:29 PM 1355 Views
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