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wow, that was an interesting read BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 02:03:52 AM
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The war against the terrorists is not a war against Islam. In fact, you can’t have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a war on Islam.

George W. Bush understood this. And it is odd to see Barack Obama less clear about this matter than his predecessor. It’s time for W. to weigh in.

The man who extended his hand to Tehran has withdrawn his hand from Park Place.

Have any of the screaming critics noticed that there already are two mosques in the same neighborhood — one four blocks away and one 12 blocks away.

The progressive Democrat in the White House, the first president of the United States with Muslim roots, has been morally trumped by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, two moderate Republicans who have spoken bravely and lucidly about not demonizing and defaming an entire religion in the name of fighting its radicals.
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An amusing column on the NYC mosque by Maureen Dowd.... - 20/08/2010 12:33:27 AM 1563 Views
wow, that was an interesting read - 20/08/2010 02:03:52 AM 925 Views
Gingrich thinks he is a deep thinker? - 20/08/2010 09:42:15 AM 767 Views
We've been through this, too, haven't we? - 20/08/2010 10:12:15 AM 1069 Views
He makes historical references as often as possible, or at least in pretty much everything I've seen - 20/08/2010 12:37:02 PM 917 Views
As he was a history professor and writes histories and alternate histories, this is not surprising - 20/08/2010 05:33:48 PM 1065 Views
I'm aware of that - 20/08/2010 11:47:32 PM 792 Views
Re: I'm aware of that - 21/08/2010 12:40:29 AM 1068 Views
Re: I'm aware of that - 21/08/2010 01:19:37 AM 931 Views
Re: I'm aware of that - 21/08/2010 01:59:48 AM 826 Views
Conservatives love Rome. I don't know why. - 21/08/2010 01:20:27 AM 872 Views
Rome was more often than not governed by aristocrats and did, after all, invent the republic. - 21/08/2010 04:50:53 PM 1203 Views
"One man, one vote" always reminds me of Pratchett - 21/08/2010 05:03:35 PM 842 Views
Me too *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:53:22 PM 517 Views
Except there doesn't seem to be any conflict between either position. - 20/08/2010 10:06:20 AM 1024 Views
When has logical consistency trumped politics? *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:50:55 PM 422 Views
True, but it does mean there's no "there" there. - 20/08/2010 02:41:49 PM 839 Views
He has to learn he needs to be crystal clear on sensitive issues - 20/08/2010 02:03:43 PM 1068 Views
In Washington, one must always present the APPEARANCE of integrity... - 20/08/2010 02:40:24 PM 963 Views
Clinton lied about the BJ but what is your airtight proof that Bush lied? - 20/08/2010 07:44:53 PM 1033 Views
Ask and ye shall receive: - 21/08/2010 06:42:50 PM 1211 Views
This is a bit along the lines of what I have been thinking. - 20/08/2010 07:49:15 PM 1053 Views
that sort of illustrates the problem - 20/08/2010 08:56:42 PM 886 Views
It does - 22/08/2010 04:56:54 PM 805 Views
Can't find anything now on the context of the second statement. - 21/08/2010 05:05:51 PM 936 Views
I didn't see the problem either. He was simply stating the obvious. - 21/08/2010 01:39:44 AM 782 Views
maybe - 21/08/2010 02:49:40 AM 1027 Views
Wow that is probably the best Dowd column I have ever read - 21/08/2010 01:35:36 AM 805 Views
Yes, his backtracking was quite pussy-ish. *NM* - 21/08/2010 04:00:31 AM 389 Views
How did he "backtrack" exactly? - 21/08/2010 04:35:33 PM 1109 Views
c'mon Joel. are you being intentionally thick? - 21/08/2010 05:02:27 PM 1122 Views
Having read those quotes I don't think he was backtracking on anything. (With link to speech) - 22/08/2010 06:27:06 AM 1062 Views
*NM* - 22/08/2010 01:37:23 PM 422 Views
did you take into your consideration - 22/08/2010 03:50:59 PM 803 Views
I can't imagine why they would express concern over it. It wasn't controversial. That is on them - 22/08/2010 03:58:32 PM 995 Views
that would be - 22/08/2010 04:02:08 PM 1087 Views
But quote B just reiterated what he said the first time. - 22/08/2010 04:13:21 PM 960 Views
I agree he is not backtracking - 22/08/2010 06:49:36 PM 903 Views
I agree with you, Joel and Tash on this one. - 22/08/2010 07:52:34 PM 978 Views
While we're picking sides, I'm with Mook and Roland. - 22/08/2010 08:20:11 PM 834 Views
I never fail to be impressed with your intelligence - 22/08/2010 08:25:11 PM 985 Views
I like how he's got rhetorical talents when it works - 22/08/2010 08:32:15 PM 854 Views
nope just human *NM* - 22/08/2010 08:37:17 PM 450 Views
that's not what Paul just said. - 22/08/2010 08:42:24 PM 918 Views
He couldn't stay out, no. - 22/08/2010 08:56:47 PM 983 Views
I don't want to argue with you on a Sunday, my religion says I have to relax. - 22/08/2010 09:03:54 PM 972 Views
key word: seem - 22/08/2010 09:06:40 PM 910 Views
I was only using that term for you guys. I don't feel like beating you with a rolling pin until you - 22/08/2010 09:14:39 PM 790 Views
good thing - 22/08/2010 09:39:52 PM 1194 Views
he could have and should have stayed out - 22/08/2010 09:57:57 PM 930 Views
I think he's certainly got rhetoric talents... - 22/08/2010 08:54:11 PM 1371 Views
You don't really seem like you're taking a side to me. - 22/08/2010 09:14:02 PM 1016 Views
I'm not even taking the time to comment on something so obvious as what he did. *NM* - 22/08/2010 02:53:10 AM 515 Views
Except, of course, that you just did. - 22/08/2010 12:30:00 PM 930 Views
Joel - 22/08/2010 05:37:45 AM 1112 Views
That last line was golden. *NM* - 22/08/2010 05:40:56 AM 481 Views
His phrasing in the first speech implied that it was a bad idea. But legally they have the right. - 22/08/2010 06:32:59 AM 1028 Views
nonsense - 22/08/2010 03:39:30 PM 975 Views
I still don't see how it can be misinterpreted except by intent by the listener. - 22/08/2010 04:08:52 PM 943 Views
so we have reached the point of no return... - 22/08/2010 04:18:46 PM 961 Views
In your case it would have to be number 2. - 22/08/2010 07:38:20 PM 935 Views
ah, but I have no agenda here... - 22/08/2010 07:41:59 PM 763 Views
lol.<3 - 22/08/2010 08:49:35 PM 938 Views
that it is... - 22/08/2010 08:57:05 PM 950 Views
Tash you are very much a fair person in this world - 22/08/2010 08:34:38 PM 1034 Views
Or there is another option: 3) He was using tact. - 22/08/2010 09:01:49 PM 961 Views
On the off chance that this: - 23/08/2010 12:38:48 AM 1135 Views
I do remember your reply... - 23/08/2010 02:57:29 AM 1378 Views
Lies, prevarication and deceit again, eh? - 22/08/2010 01:17:45 PM 1417 Views
that was a decent explanation.... - 22/08/2010 05:18:18 PM 871 Views
Thanks. - 22/08/2010 05:41:28 PM 948 Views
I do feel bad for them - 22/08/2010 08:40:36 PM 846 Views
Re: Joel - 22/08/2010 07:53:51 PM 998 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 22/08/2010 08:25:38 PM 576 Views

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