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This feels like two separate issues to me. Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 25/08/2010 05:25:50 PM
This cannot be allowed to contine...



Whether the government putting the GPS tracker on somebody's vehicle is okay or not, and where it is or isn't acceptable for them to do that.

If we accept that it's okay for the government to put a GPS tracker on somebody's vehicle, that should be able to happen wherever it can be done without breaking some other law. I assume that somebody walking onto an unrestricted driveway is not breaking any other law in doing so. Presumably climbing over a locked fence or entering an unlocked garage would be violating tresspassing laws, but this seems potentially murkier. Breaking into a locked garage is right out ;)
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1984 at last...Very Disturbing Ryan - 25/08/2010 04:08:04 PM 1563 Views
what a stupid decision... LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 04:16:49 PM 896 Views
Re: what a stupid decision... Ryan - 25/08/2010 04:23:26 PM 1122 Views
You don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your driveway random thoughts - 25/08/2010 04:32:08 PM 924 Views
the police aren't snapping pictures. LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 04:36:32 PM 884 Views
oddly enough you can dance naked in front of the window random thoughts - 25/08/2010 05:01:33 PM 929 Views
yah, i know there are instances like that LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:15:59 PM 899 Views
How is it really that much different then following in car or helicopter? random thoughts - 25/08/2010 04:27:28 PM 976 Views
it's less that people shouldn't expect privacy behind a fence... LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 04:35:28 PM 861 Views
it's about 4th and 5th amendment, imho moondog - 26/08/2010 03:00:01 AM 1000 Views
and how is it different from police hiding a GPS tracker in my coat? Or is that OK too? *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2010 05:12:30 AM 434 Views
It does seem wrong snoopcester - 25/08/2010 05:04:39 PM 924 Views
^ that's what i was trying to say LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:16:35 PM 1068 Views
When it comes to stuff like this I always same the same thing Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:09:01 PM 956 Views
true. but what if they only think you're breaking the law? LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:19:52 PM 861 Views
Well they would easily find out you weren't a drug dealer Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:25:40 PM 955 Views
wait, now i'm guilty until proven innocent? LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:32:42 PM 973 Views
most of those people deserved to be tasered *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2010 05:45:29 PM 425 Views
most of the old women and non-resisting people deserve to be tasered? *NM* LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 09:07:12 PM 417 Views
most of them are resiting they resisting random thoughts - 25/08/2010 09:13:29 PM 910 Views
but they aren't resisiting in a way that puts the officer in danger, i mean. LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 09:22:06 PM 958 Views
but effective random thoughts - 25/08/2010 09:55:30 PM 828 Views
yes nothing says "better than arguing" than ELECTROCUTING SOMEONE LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:14:55 PM 971 Views
any physical altercation is dangerous for a police officer random thoughts - 25/08/2010 11:30:07 PM 823 Views
you see plenty of videos where the person wasn't being aggressive, though. LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:46:43 PM 945 Views
Sorry but he needed to be tasered random thoughts - 26/08/2010 02:57:19 AM 960 Views
well we're getting a little off topic here and going to a sidebar soon.. LadyLorraine - 26/08/2010 03:36:43 AM 875 Views
And when someone dies because they get electrocuted? Ryan - 26/08/2010 06:52:13 AM 1181 Views
all the more reason to listen to a police officer if they point a taser at you *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2010 02:43:46 PM 407 Views
I believe Jefferson had a certain famous quote about that... *NM* Floffe - 25/08/2010 07:50:48 PM 441 Views
It was Franklin. Ghavrel - 25/08/2010 10:12:54 PM 976 Views
i do love that quote LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:17:11 PM 854 Views
They did. He says it in Congress and, if I recall correctly, Dickinson gets annoyed. Ghavrel - 25/08/2010 11:37:41 PM 807 Views
it's a lovely musical LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:47:29 PM 782 Views
Enforcers of the law are not supposed to be above it. Macharius - 25/08/2010 05:56:00 PM 868 Views
Re: Enforcers of the law are not supposed to be above it. Ryan - 26/08/2010 06:47:30 AM 1071 Views
The law is not always just or correct. Legislators make mistakes and can be corrupt. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2010 09:06:55 PM 416 Views
This feels like two separate issues to me. Sareitha Sedai - 25/08/2010 05:25:50 PM 1016 Views
even if they are not restricted, driveways are private property LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:34:00 PM 957 Views
I don't think that's true. Sareitha Sedai - 25/08/2010 05:55:26 PM 868 Views
you don't need permission to walk up someone's driveway until they have posted a no trespassing sign random thoughts - 25/08/2010 06:00:02 PM 945 Views
yes, and that's a relatively expected activity LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 07:24:54 PM 966 Views
Should a person without a garage be penalized Ryan - 25/08/2010 05:36:37 PM 1092 Views
They're not being penalized; it works in the other direction. Sareitha Sedai - 25/08/2010 05:59:59 PM 1070 Views
I think... Hezzah - 25/08/2010 09:47:51 PM 927 Views
Or you could go the other way, and say it's legal for them to put a GPS tracker on your house. Gher - 25/08/2010 10:30:32 PM 820 Views
I wouldn't mind a GPS tracker on my house LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:16:10 PM 858 Views
They need a fucking warrant. End of story. Fuckers *NM* Dan - 26/08/2010 12:13:04 AM 414 Views
ummmm.... damookster - 26/08/2010 03:35:30 AM 908 Views
I do believe that would require a warrant though *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2010 04:57:36 AM 357 Views
The GPS in a phone being on will show up, though Floffe - 01/09/2010 12:36:13 PM 840 Views
I have 3 words for you... Bramhodoulos - 27/08/2010 01:59:13 PM 1125 Views
I have one word horseshit *NM* random thoughts - 27/08/2010 06:18:33 PM 414 Views
right damookster - 27/08/2010 10:19:53 PM 944 Views
*shrug* Old news, really. Joel - 02/09/2010 02:50:00 PM 904 Views
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