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it's about 4th and 5th amendment, imho moondog Send a noteboard - 26/08/2010 03:00:01 AM
It is cheaper so it might become more common but from a privacy point of it really isn't that much different. I think the gated property thing is a bit over rated as well since all they would need to do follow you until you stop at a public place and attach it there. Yes people with privacy fences have a greater expectation of privacy behind the fence then people do not have on just like people who park in their garage would have a greater expectation of privacy then people who don’t. Arguing that people can not expect privacy behind a privacy fence because everyone does not have one is like arguing that people should not expect privacy in their home because there are homeless people.

Part of the problem is people see this as being simply a case for the courts. If you oppose then get laws passed to make it illegal.



you have a right to privacy *IN YOUR CAR* but you don't have the right to expect that your car is private property? on 4th amendment grounds, this sounds like a classic illegal search. and on 5th amendment grounds, it seems like there's a lot of self-incrimination going on, not to mention private property being used for public surveillance. this is a terrible, awful, horrible decision by the court. hopefully the supreme court strikes it down.
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1984 at last...Very Disturbing - 25/08/2010 04:08:04 PM 1622 Views
what a stupid decision... - 25/08/2010 04:16:49 PM 951 Views
Re: what a stupid decision... - 25/08/2010 04:23:26 PM 1181 Views
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the police aren't snapping pictures. - 25/08/2010 04:36:32 PM 936 Views
oddly enough you can dance naked in front of the window - 25/08/2010 05:01:33 PM 1000 Views
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it's less that people shouldn't expect privacy behind a fence... - 25/08/2010 04:35:28 PM 929 Views
it's about 4th and 5th amendment, imho - 26/08/2010 03:00:01 AM 1055 Views
It does seem wrong - 25/08/2010 05:04:39 PM 975 Views
^ that's what i was trying to say - 25/08/2010 05:16:35 PM 1144 Views
When it comes to stuff like this I always same the same thing - 25/08/2010 05:09:01 PM 1008 Views
true. but what if they only think you're breaking the law? - 25/08/2010 05:19:52 PM 909 Views
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wait, now i'm guilty until proven innocent? - 25/08/2010 05:32:42 PM 1037 Views
most of those people deserved to be tasered *NM* - 25/08/2010 05:45:29 PM 455 Views
most of the old women and non-resisting people deserve to be tasered? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:07:12 PM 489 Views
most of them are resiting they resisting - 25/08/2010 09:13:29 PM 961 Views
but they aren't resisiting in a way that puts the officer in danger, i mean. - 25/08/2010 09:22:06 PM 1032 Views
but effective - 25/08/2010 09:55:30 PM 882 Views
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any physical altercation is dangerous for a police officer - 25/08/2010 11:30:07 PM 871 Views
you see plenty of videos where the person wasn't being aggressive, though. - 25/08/2010 11:46:43 PM 1029 Views
Sorry but he needed to be tasered - 26/08/2010 02:57:19 AM 1009 Views
well we're getting a little off topic here and going to a sidebar soon.. - 26/08/2010 03:36:43 AM 928 Views
And when someone dies because they get electrocuted? - 26/08/2010 06:52:13 AM 1241 Views
I believe Jefferson had a certain famous quote about that... *NM* - 25/08/2010 07:50:48 PM 499 Views
It was Franklin. - 25/08/2010 10:12:54 PM 1030 Views
i do love that quote - 25/08/2010 11:17:11 PM 928 Views
They did. He says it in Congress and, if I recall correctly, Dickinson gets annoyed. - 25/08/2010 11:37:41 PM 857 Views
it's a lovely musical - 25/08/2010 11:47:29 PM 861 Views
Enforcers of the law are not supposed to be above it. - 25/08/2010 05:56:00 PM 924 Views
Re: Enforcers of the law are not supposed to be above it. - 26/08/2010 06:47:30 AM 1133 Views
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I don't think that's true. - 25/08/2010 05:55:26 PM 957 Views
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I think... - 25/08/2010 09:47:51 PM 989 Views
They need a fucking warrant. End of story. Fuckers *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:13:04 AM 468 Views
ummmm.... - 26/08/2010 03:35:30 AM 967 Views
I do believe that would require a warrant though *NM* - 26/08/2010 04:57:36 AM 386 Views
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I have 3 words for you... - 27/08/2010 01:59:13 PM 1182 Views
I have one word horseshit *NM* - 27/08/2010 06:18:33 PM 452 Views
right - 27/08/2010 10:19:53 PM 995 Views
*shrug* Old news, really. - 02/09/2010 02:50:00 PM 963 Views

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