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"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 01/09/2010 07:25:19 AM
Not sure people really understand what that means. Including the people who preach it.

That's not sugar-coated. It's a lot harder to do than judge, actually. I'm great at judging. Not so much at the love thy neighbor.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Preaching the Word: You're doing it wrong. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 08:22:14 AM 1445 Views
Danny if you were my preacher... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 12:42:59 PM 921 Views
Lots of good stuff Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 12:43:57 PM 898 Views
True enough. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:29:23 PM 1003 Views
Maybe it's just where you're coming from... Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 06:34:09 PM 842 Views
I like it SilverWarder - 31/08/2010 02:48:31 PM 691 Views
I really <3 you. @my - 31/08/2010 03:09:39 PM 873 Views
How much of that is your words? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 03:16:51 PM 975 Views
he is a preacher LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 03:19:44 PM 959 Views
Most of it. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:26:24 PM 817 Views
Well done. *NM* Missa Sedai - 31/08/2010 04:46:54 PM 529 Views
I find myself disgusted that... globug0822 - 31/08/2010 05:12:06 PM 918 Views
he's a peachy preacher? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 05:27:08 PM 898 Views
LOL globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:31:45 PM 836 Views
Is my church the exception? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 05:33:36 PM 894 Views
Believe it or not... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 06:58:56 PM 852 Views
I'm not so full of myself.... Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:14:29 PM 968 Views
I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 07:18:19 PM 769 Views
A little fire & brimstone for thy stomach's sake? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:29:20 PM 803 Views
passionate preachers make me uneasy. LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:38:05 PM 700 Views
Passion doesn't need to be... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:50:22 PM 965 Views
Why do you take what he says so personally? Francie - 01/09/2010 08:51:06 PM 945 Views
I'm not taking anything personally.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:20:55 PM 1304 Views
good question,why would they? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:32:25 PM 888 Views
Your assumption... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:44:28 PM 1034 Views
Look him in the eye? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:59:02 PM 808 Views
Ok... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:34:56 PM 919 Views
so you would not say a murderer would go to heaven? LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:21:10 AM 882 Views
Forgiveness and repentance are humanity's most noble qualities. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:48:02 AM 808 Views
Isn't love your big thing? Jeordam - 02/09/2010 07:17:30 PM 1010 Views
yah I know. I just always feel like they're trying to sell me something. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:09:13 PM 451 Views
Wouldn't this be.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 851 Views
nah, i generally feel that way about that particular behavior. it's not exclusive to preachers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:29:23 PM 502 Views
Re: I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Camilla - 01/09/2010 12:40:20 PM 965 Views
*throws panties at you* globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:35:13 PM 809 Views
There are churches where people throw panties at each other? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:42:17 PM 848 Views
I think you would also have to move to where she lives. I don't know any ones that do that here... *NM* Tashmere - 31/08/2010 09:47:21 PM 499 Views
I could just visit random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:55:50 PM 866 Views
but it'd be fun to WATCH LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:02:58 PM 820 Views
if the panties are the size of revival tents it wouldn't be all that fun *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2010 10:20:32 PM 425 Views
Why sure it would SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:57:05 AM 951 Views
The Church of Tom Jones. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:59 PM 463 Views
(as if this was the first time) I remember that night at kit & wooly's place..... *NM* Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:51:17 PM 483 Views
I can't speak for everyone LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:40:12 PM 987 Views
Testify Sistah Gaylen! Francie - 01/09/2010 02:47:50 PM 1029 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:40:55 PM 842 Views
Re: Believe it or not... TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:20 PM 915 Views
I never thought I could feel so free ee eeee *NM* Francie - 01/09/2010 02:48:18 PM 488 Views
As always, Danu - 31/08/2010 06:04:19 PM 947 Views
If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM 989 Views
Well, at least you didn't include the vague "personal." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 08:59:55 PM 830 Views
....what? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:02:05 PM 832 Views
'Far as I can tell, it was a mock reply. *NM* Zalis - 31/08/2010 09:04:16 PM 434 Views
...ah...blagh. *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:07:00 PM 496 Views
It wasn't. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 09:56:35 PM 475 Views
The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 10:02:04 PM 748 Views
ahhh I see. That's interesting! *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:03:35 PM 478 Views
Re: The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Zalis - 31/08/2010 10:29:16 PM 995 Views
I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 02:49:24 AM 839 Views
*picks up the thrown glove* Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:44:53 AM 997 Views
You didn't say anything I disagree with. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 05:02:59 AM 846 Views
One of your statements suma great deal of Christianity, actually LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:39:52 PM 862 Views
So then in your estimation.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:52:12 PM 1054 Views
From what I do know... LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:33:14 PM 990 Views
How about some homework first? Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:32:32 PM 1068 Views
You do understand LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:35:25 PM 849 Views
You'd be suprised... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:50:12 PM 780 Views
Because I find theology interesting LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 10:04:23 PM 828 Views
You'd make such a good Episcopalian. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:17:56 AM 389 Views
Coincidently, Ghav... LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:22:10 AM 827 Views
Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:03:13 AM 862 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:09:46 PM 1027 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 11:59:47 PM 1072 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 02/09/2010 01:03:42 AM 915 Views
It isn't henosis. It's a union with God. That's the whole point of the Eucharist, anyway. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:13:39 AM 859 Views
"mock"...really??? damookster - 02/09/2010 07:22:34 PM 954 Views
Moralistic, therapeutic Deism sounds like the perfect religion to me... *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 04:35:51 PM 455 Views
I think that its a great word to use... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:46:59 PM 971 Views
Bummer Jesus couldn't figure that one out. Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:48:03 AM 817 Views
"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 07:25:19 AM 857 Views
well OBVIOUSLY LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:29:20 PM 917 Views
Jesus talked about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, AFAIK. Zalis - 01/09/2010 02:39:59 PM 914 Views
You might want to research that some SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 02:56:58 PM 832 Views
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:38:00 PM 964 Views
Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:25:12 PM 950 Views
the weeds will be gathered and burned does seem a little suggestive *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 06:55:44 PM 463 Views
yes of burning. LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:38:07 PM 972 Views
burning and gnashing teeth *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 07:50:53 PM 481 Views
well wouldn't you gnash your teeth if you were on fire? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:51:36 PM 1006 Views
Jesus needs to work on his analogies LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:39:12 PM 937 Views
there is a hell random thoughts - 01/09/2010 09:12:34 PM 968 Views
lollers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:17:16 PM 473 Views
to each their own... damookster - 01/09/2010 11:02:41 PM 881 Views
+1 *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2010 03:43:10 AM 444 Views
Something of a false dilemma, that. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:10:25 AM 827 Views
or perhaps... damookster - 02/09/2010 04:18:57 AM 967 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:31:33 AM 454 Views
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