I mean, that's what Calvinism was, at least in part. Needless to say, I maintain my previous statement, but don't expect either of us to change the others mind (starting off by saying you've always consciously ignored the subject doesn't exactly help your arguments though. ) Even if I concede the Revolution, however, you'll have a hard time convincing anyone abolition or the Grange and labor movements would've happened without those same folks. Maybe "some day" but not until much later, if ever.

Look, I'm not saying you have to like them, but minimizing their role would be like minimizing Calvins role in the history of Medieval Europe, if you want it in those terms.