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Then where are they? Joel Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 04:00:46 AM
Just providing a place to have a Chat isn't going to bring back all the old wotmania Chat regulars though.


I disagree with that. If one were provided, people would flood it in droves. For the first few months, there would probably be too many people.

Even if they aren't on Skype there are just too many different ways they could have the chat experience they desire in every way that matters any time they like. That's what made it so appealing to use Skype and the others as a litmus test, because if there's a real demand it will satisfy itself, find a medium. That that hasn't happened I find very telling. For that matter, I may not have been in wotmania chat back in '02, but I was there a lot the last few years, and so was Chat: Where were the people?

It seems more like Chat died from lack of interest than from lack of a Chat. Anyone who likes is welcome to prove me wrong.
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Chat John - 10/10/2010 07:34:44 AM 1176 Views
Yes Camilla - 10/10/2010 11:10:18 AM 707 Views
Hey you Missa Sedai - 10/10/2010 04:14:47 PM 788 Views
Hey Missa John - 13/10/2010 04:35:46 AM 667 Views
I've already had several days like that. Yet people keep insisting RAFO is better without chat. *NM* Aeryn - 10/10/2010 05:29:46 PM 419 Views
it depends which chat we get. LadyLorraine - 10/10/2010 05:44:58 PM 764 Views
You're in the Skype Chat now, btw. Joel - 10/10/2010 10:59:24 PM 679 Views
When chat used to be down for long stretches, everyone would just pile into AIM chat. TaskmasterJack - 10/10/2010 06:54:33 PM 823 Views
Which they could easily do with Skype and get voice, yet no one does. Joel - 10/10/2010 10:56:55 PM 859 Views
The idea of voice chat creeps me out on so many levels *NM* Camilla - 11/10/2010 12:34:22 AM 794 Views
So don't do voice; we rarely do. Joel - 11/10/2010 07:35:33 AM 789 Views
Same *NM* ironclad - 11/10/2010 09:40:29 AM 329 Views
Is that why the Edinburgh gathering pics are always nothing but sign language and dirty gestures? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 11/10/2010 10:36:00 PM 414 Views
Come and find out *NM* Camilla - 11/10/2010 10:48:56 PM 304 Views
The group that is popularized as being a part of that is not enticing to long standing wotmaniacs. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 11/10/2010 03:29:57 AM 453 Views
This. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/10/2010 04:43:52 AM 290 Views
Then that, again, seems a problem that coding can't solve. Joel - 11/10/2010 07:33:32 AM 830 Views
I don't think most want to download another program when they had it so easy before. TaskmasterJack - 11/10/2010 10:39:55 PM 855 Views
Honestly, I think the "one time event" is the biggest problem. Joel - 12/10/2010 04:20:04 AM 861 Views
I disagree. I don't think enough people think it worth the effort to deal with Skype. Ghavrel - 12/10/2010 04:28:21 AM 753 Views
What effort? Joel - 12/10/2010 04:38:42 AM 740 Views
The effort beyond clicking two buttons. Ghavrel - 13/10/2010 04:25:57 AM 614 Views
Install, make a SN and search for people you email. Joel - 13/10/2010 04:43:09 AM 792 Views
Re: TaskmasterJack - 12/10/2010 11:00:56 PM 618 Views
Then where are they? Joel - 13/10/2010 04:00:46 AM 684 Views
You have a faulty memory. Chat was incredibly active as late as 2007. Ghavrel - 13/10/2010 04:24:25 AM 760 Views
Again, that's people, and not/having Chat won't change that. Joel - 13/10/2010 04:45:40 AM 769 Views
Incorrect John - 13/10/2010 04:58:30 AM 792 Views
Initially only the person who started it can boot. Joel - 13/10/2010 05:12:27 AM 847 Views
Re: Initially only the person who started it can boot. BlackAdder - 13/10/2010 02:45:50 PM 710 Views
And me! Kronin al'Sulc - 13/10/2010 03:27:15 PM 712 Views
oops, sorry about that. *NM* BlackAdder - 13/10/2010 03:42:33 PM 665 Views
Sounds right; don't really know much about The Tavern except that's all in character. Joel - 14/10/2010 04:54:06 AM 774 Views
What do you mean where are they? There isn't a chat linked to the site. TaskmasterJack - 13/10/2010 10:44:10 PM 818 Views
So? Joel - 14/10/2010 04:52:37 AM 798 Views
Are you deliberately trying to not understand? John - 14/10/2010 05:54:16 AM 918 Views
Not deliberately. Joel - 14/10/2010 06:21:09 AM 803 Views
I have to admit that I highly doubt I would ever participate if a revived chat were installed Larry - 13/10/2010 05:08:38 AM 774 Views
I doubt that as well, frankly. *NM* Legolas - 13/10/2010 03:32:33 PM 338 Views
Things aren't what they used to be... TaskmasterJack - 13/10/2010 10:46:04 PM 733 Views
No John - 13/10/2010 04:45:29 AM 699 Views
"Unmoderated" would be going too far. Joel - 13/10/2010 04:53:19 AM 834 Views
Most of the group consists of long-standing Wotmaniacs, so. *NM* Dan - 12/10/2010 05:25:39 AM 409 Views
I probably didn't phrase that right. Maybe an -er after long and an "in good" before standing. TaskmasterJack - 12/10/2010 11:02:30 PM 803 Views
Plenty of people who've been around as long as you, and plenty in good standing. *NM* Dan - 13/10/2010 05:36:23 AM 405 Views
I see that my comments are being interpeted as a blanket insult to all parties involved... TaskmasterJack - 13/10/2010 11:09:09 PM 787 Views
Also "as long as me" doesn't really factor, because I wasn't using myself to set the bar. TaskmasterJack - 13/10/2010 11:26:29 PM 855 Views
Also, what qualifies as "good standing"? Who's the judge? *NM* Dan - 13/10/2010 05:36:23 AM 440 Views
The one who wants to chat, of course? *NM* jh - 13/10/2010 07:23:15 AM 400 Views
Jonte is right. The judges are numerous. Each with their own motivations and interests. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 13/10/2010 11:10:04 PM 378 Views
I'd fuck myself to death with a spike of frozen cat piss before I'd chat with that skype crowd. LiterateDog - 13/10/2010 11:42:16 PM 816 Views
Colorful. You big, gay elitist. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 12:06:14 AM 410 Views
See Kit - 14/10/2010 05:42:21 AM 703 Views
we are Rafonauts now. Yunalesca - 13/10/2010 03:16:32 PM 662 Views
Yeah, I know, I came up with the term. Many still consider the "old gang" as "wotmaniacs" though. TaskmasterJack - 13/10/2010 11:01:58 PM 838 Views
I sure hope you're right. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:04:26 AM 884 Views
I am RAFOlk. Joel - 14/10/2010 06:22:25 AM 688 Views
When I got facebook I stopped logging in to aim. Avendesora - 11/10/2010 01:24:26 AM 714 Views
There's a Chat if you want one. Joel - 10/10/2010 11:01:57 PM 822 Views
i wouldn't say mutely Yunalesca - 10/10/2010 11:40:13 PM 793 Views
Ditto. Stephen - 10/10/2010 11:53:32 PM 727 Views
Well, like I said, talk about something else. Joel - 11/10/2010 01:32:15 AM 752 Views
do you know how hard it is stopping sports fanatics talking about sports? Yunalesca - 11/10/2010 09:59:56 AM 834 Views
I'll usually shut up if someone carries another topic. Joel - 12/10/2010 04:25:19 AM 767 Views
I'd deign to chat with you, m'friend. *NM* LiterateDog - 13/10/2010 11:43:13 PM 363 Views
John - 14/10/2010 05:45:26 AM 733 Views
Re: Kit - 14/10/2010 05:47:07 AM 755 Views
While I'm passing through, "Hi wooly and Kit. Long time." *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:14:49 PM 407 Views
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