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If I understand you nossy Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 03:05:39 PM

Let's keep in mind that the first amendment is there to protect unpopular speech, popular speech has never needed protection, no one ever gets dragged away by secret police in the middle of the night for saying how much they like their dictator.

In a nutshell.


I'm sure you've noticed by now that a lot of the objections people have been raising are phrased in a way that makes it pretty obvious that if the word 'islam' had been replaced with something else they wouldn't care, or would say the school was overreacting because the schoolboard was full of nuts, or alternatively a lot the people mention free speech here would have been frothing at the mouth if it had said something else. You take two speerate blind groups and have one where a kid walked in wearing a shirt that said 'save the whales' and another that said 'nuke the whales' and watch as both groups have people scream holy heck that would have shrugged if they'd seen the other shirt. A small sliver will be those who liked the shirt and still say 'We shouldn't have messages on shirts in a public school full of minors' and another small group that hates the shirt but goes ballistic when someone tries to ban it. Those two tiny slivers 'get it', the others are just self-selective when it comes to getting offended.

Personally, the existance of that self-selective morals majority is what I blame 99% of the worlds problems and atrocities on. For every blistering insane psychopath sneaking into power you have a thousand 'innocent bystanders' turning a blind eye or shrugging. But I'm rambling off on a morbid streak here, I'm sure you get my point.

I don't really agree that protecting free speech is the same thing as allowing disruptive slogans in school. Period. I'd fight to have my right to say/think whatever I want when I want to, but seriously, in school, when kids are already eager for ways to distract themselves and cause problems, it shouldn't be allowed. My sister's kids go to a school that requires uniforms for just this reason, and everybody is fine with that. Unless that's what you meant by the "small sliver that gets it," in which case, carry on. I do agree with the last paragraph.
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Islam is of the Devil - 06/09/2009 03:30:51 AM 1619 Views
I swear, the levels of crazy are just increasing these days. - 06/09/2009 06:04:19 AM 911 Views
People are stupid. - 06/09/2009 06:25:42 AM 1062 Views
This statement got me: - 06/09/2009 06:30:16 AM 1252 Views
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What you say about those places may be true - 06/09/2009 02:16:30 PM 914 Views
Regardless... - 07/09/2009 04:34:48 AM 858 Views
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I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. - 08/09/2009 07:11:13 PM 990 Views
Re: I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. - 08/09/2009 10:15:55 PM 961 Views
Okay... - 09/09/2009 04:04:29 PM 892 Views
You are free to wear offensive clothing - 08/09/2009 08:13:18 PM 944 Views
There is a difference between hatred and truth. - 09/09/2009 04:04:02 PM 880 Views
You do know christans have done that as well don't you? - 09/09/2009 06:04:28 PM 952 Views
The difference is... - 09/09/2009 06:16:13 PM 853 Views
really have you actaully read the Qur'an - 09/09/2009 06:33:38 PM 927 Views
there are some unsavory passages, and he knows it. - 09/09/2009 06:46:59 PM 918 Views
Acrually No I don't. - 09/09/2009 07:52:19 PM 797 Views
Someone should have told Jesus the OT was void - 09/09/2009 10:31:39 PM 935 Views
Jesus was the one who voided it. - 10/09/2009 12:25:18 AM 935 Views
so he was lying when he said he didn't? - 10/09/2009 03:27:14 AM 989 Views
Christ never said that. - 10/09/2009 02:14:53 PM 901 Views
Logicaly, this is a stupid post. - 06/09/2009 03:58:43 PM 952 Views
+1 *NM* - 06/09/2009 08:56:02 PM 430 Views
+2 *NM* - 06/09/2009 10:04:34 PM 397 Views
+3 *NM* - 06/09/2009 10:36:48 PM 416 Views
As an Englishman, why are you even posting in this thread then? *NM* - 07/09/2009 02:49:22 AM 443 Views
Because I can. - 07/09/2009 10:15:57 AM 963 Views
So can he. - 07/09/2009 07:54:56 PM 872 Views
Yes - 08/09/2009 05:59:24 AM 904 Views
It means a lot in context to the situation - 08/09/2009 07:14:50 PM 997 Views
No, it does not. - 08/09/2009 07:20:49 PM 934 Views
So now you can tell me what I can and can't do with my children? - 08/09/2009 11:31:16 PM 966 Views
I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. - 08/09/2009 11:59:21 PM 915 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. - 09/09/2009 04:10:19 PM 989 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. - 09/09/2009 04:27:32 PM 1040 Views
Define "disruptive". - 09/09/2009 06:19:36 PM 917 Views
No. *NM* - 09/09/2009 06:26:43 PM 444 Views
Well said *NM* - 09/09/2009 06:55:22 PM 414 Views
Ooh, look, I'm being baited. - 09/09/2009 07:59:28 PM 882 Views
Then your argument has no merit. *NM* - 09/09/2009 07:52:47 PM 414 Views
you are making no sense - 08/09/2009 11:35:12 AM 956 Views
Quite a bit. - 07/09/2009 04:31:59 AM 929 Views
Luke 6:31 *NM* - 07/09/2009 08:41:54 PM 486 Views
That applies to them as well. *NM* - 08/09/2009 07:08:55 PM 325 Views
The thing I think you are missing... - 06/09/2009 07:18:45 PM 1010 Views
Wait, what? - 06/09/2009 08:29:14 PM 966 Views
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Yeah, what you said! - 06/09/2009 11:51:19 PM 1032 Views
don't make me get all vulcan on you. *NM* - 07/09/2009 06:13:18 AM 404 Views
Wrong. - 07/09/2009 04:36:49 AM 936 Views
That is why America is different than those countries. Duh. *NM* - 06/09/2009 07:58:53 PM 612 Views
Because in America - 07/09/2009 04:35:24 AM 1024 Views
Re: Because in America - 07/09/2009 06:16:05 AM 866 Views
And... - 08/09/2009 07:15:49 PM 883 Views
Jesus, you are a real piece of work. Moron. *NM* - 07/09/2009 11:52:02 PM 306 Views
I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. - 08/09/2009 01:40:42 AM 946 Views
Go, Tash, go! - 08/09/2009 05:52:01 AM 904 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. - 08/09/2009 07:18:00 PM 904 Views
"Their government" is the American government. *NM* - 08/09/2009 07:36:27 PM 382 Views
That is a concept many people can't seem to grasp *NM* - 08/09/2009 08:14:50 PM 390 Views
The elf has a point. *NM* - 08/09/2009 10:18:26 PM 445 Views
And yet I don't see CAIR.. - 09/09/2009 04:07:05 PM 858 Views
Why on earth should it? - 09/09/2009 05:14:30 PM 888 Views
Because... - 09/09/2009 06:25:41 PM 965 Views
Re: Because... - 09/09/2009 07:06:24 PM 1144 Views
Really? - 08/09/2009 08:02:42 PM 845 Views
Re: Really? - 09/09/2009 12:11:36 AM 901 Views
Well it's not about whether it scans right to you. - 09/09/2009 04:06:06 PM 800 Views
Oh, I was just clarifying. - 09/09/2009 06:05:49 PM 851 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. - 08/09/2009 11:49:48 PM 979 Views
Failed edit. *NM* - 08/09/2009 11:50:50 PM 423 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 09/09/2009 12:12:52 AM 424 Views
I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note - 06/09/2009 06:46:58 AM 945 Views
Re: I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note - 06/09/2009 07:22:59 AM 1080 Views
It didn't infringe on the First Amendment rights of others. - 06/09/2009 07:28:35 AM 926 Views
Er? You misunderstand the law quite a lot there - 06/09/2009 11:06:04 AM 927 Views
I believe the rest of the Church has done a horrible job explaining... - 06/09/2009 08:02:25 PM 921 Views
When will people learn tolerance/=support...? - 06/09/2009 12:30:23 PM 993 Views
Well said *NM* - 06/09/2009 12:50:11 PM 424 Views
The sad thing is ou know it is the parents driving it all - 06/09/2009 02:37:08 PM 1054 Views
The parents are disgusting idiots - 06/09/2009 03:57:17 PM 943 Views
Fundamentalist nutjobs. Sheesh! *NM* - 06/09/2009 07:57:09 PM 488 Views
The appropriate punishment... - 07/09/2009 06:03:25 AM 944 Views
Punishment for what? - 07/09/2009 09:51:57 AM 954 Views
When did I say anything about a law? - 07/09/2009 10:48:09 AM 917 Views
That's the key point so many forget: - 07/09/2009 11:42:12 PM 792 Views
It's not that they forget, they never 'get' to begin with - 09/09/2009 07:18:09 PM 965 Views
No, that's pretty much it. - 10/09/2009 03:42:25 AM 1030 Views
You're right. - 14/09/2009 11:11:38 AM 1107 Views
If I understand you - 14/09/2009 03:05:39 PM 948 Views
Yes, that was it - 14/09/2009 04:17:45 PM 1085 Views

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