Active Users:416 Time:16/06/2026 09:26:51 PM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM
It's at best an empty placeholder or hope for an explanation. Science at least provides a partial explanation of the unknown by describing the boundaries of what we know. If you say the soul is whatever human qualities haven't yet been discovered by science, then the soul theory is falsified every time a scientific discovery about humanity is made.

That said, you could say I believe in the "soul" as a good label for a collection of qualities that humans happen to possess. I just don't see any need (scientifically or theologically) for positing a spiritual substance to explain those qualities.
||||||||||*MySmiley*
Only so evil.
This message last edited by Burr on 14/09/2009 at 07:59:49 PM
Reply to message
Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 1012 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 327 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 317 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 314 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 847 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 755 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 779 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 698 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 763 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 759 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 899 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 319 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 766 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 755 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 792 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 823 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 305 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 738 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 760 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 336 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 314 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 316 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 320 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 316 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 330 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 320 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 664 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 297 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 316 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 299 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 739 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 723 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 755 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 798 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 716 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 700 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 759 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 316 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 288 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 965 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 669 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 882 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 858 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 915 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 700 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 808 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes