Well, honestly, I don't know, but I expect language filter subroutines are pretty standardized now.
Joel Send a noteboard - 22/11/2010 08:01:07 PM
Believe it or not, most such software doesn't have a manual black- or whitelist (as creating and keeping these up to date would be a huge undertaking), but rely on at least semi-automated means. The upside to this is that new or small sites are also taken care or by such an approach, while manual listings might skip these.
Either one would be easier than scanning the whole site for certain words, however, and that was my point. That, and that circumventing the language filter is absurdly easy unless the site has additional safeguards to prevent it. wotmania could've but never did, because the objective was to increase accessibility, not censor content. I'm still not sure why that's so objectionable here, since the same people who object to it so strenuously can work around it almost unconsciously. How much effort does it take to type <html></html> if you just HAVE to swear at people?
The entire filter is implemented server-side, all a browser will see is possible error messages (which'll then have to be parsed to see that it's a filter rather than something else).
Both the submit and preview buttons are of the same type. Any filter will either a) not be logged in, in which case that'll give an error, or b) attempt to submit a post and then parse the result. The latter scenario should mean that at least now and then there should be an extra post submitted by such a filter not sure of which of the two buttons to use.
Such checking for routines could well be implemented for major BB systems such as phpBB and vBulletin, but remember that RAFO has completely custom code that probably behaves differently from these.
Also remember that RAFO has no such filter anyway, so there's nothing to find, however thorough the check; however basic or complex such a check is, RAFO fails it miserably.
Anyway, I admit this is an assumption, but I expect language filters have been around long enough to be fairly standardized; part of the point of having subroutines is to simplify the code not just for the people who wrote it, but for later troubleshooting by that person and others. In fact, IIRC, one of the complaints against wotmania was that Mike often patched old code rather than rewriting it, so that after a decade it was a confusing jumble even he had trouble navigating, and hopeless for anyone else. I doubt there are very many ways of filtering content in common use, or that it would be difficult for a webbrowser to recognize that among the data it receives when linked to a site.
I also still think it's kind of silly to put an exclamation point next to a dead link, as RAFO does with the nonexistent "Rules" section. It's important enough to command attention, but not to actually go anywhere.

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Slightly better than chocolate.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Can we swear at RAFO?
22/11/2010 04:57:59 AM
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Fuck no. Are you shitting me? There's no damn chance we can swear.
22/11/2010 05:01:48 AM
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You DARE presume to assault my delicate ears with your nasty coarse sailor talk???
22/11/2010 05:05:23 AM
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I can't think of underage users
22/11/2010 11:32:40 AM
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Well
22/11/2010 11:47:13 AM
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That's a good point of course
22/11/2010 11:58:37 AM
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Obviously we don't know what we don't know.</Rumsfeld>
22/11/2010 12:33:53 PM
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Apparently it's not high on Ben's priority list, so we seem to be fine for now. *NM*
22/11/2010 12:38:42 PM
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The difference is webbrowsers can't be set to automatically exlude the former from web searches.
22/11/2010 12:01:05 PM
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How many posts have there been with swear words in titles?
22/11/2010 12:45:49 PM
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Are you telling me monitors are THAT horribly inefficient?
22/11/2010 02:55:43 PM
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Scanning a CoC requires a human (or significantly improved parsing), whereas spidering can be dumb
22/11/2010 03:06:19 PM
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I figured,but checking for filter subroutines seems like it would be pretty easy.
22/11/2010 04:18:01 PM
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Subroutines such as what?
22/11/2010 04:33:05 PM
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Well, honestly, I don't know, but I expect language filter subroutines are pretty standardized now.
22/11/2010 08:01:07 PM
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The point is that there is nothing that a browser* will see of such a filter unless...
23/11/2010 08:56:37 AM
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OK, but even then preventing such posts covers the contingencies while censoring none.
23/11/2010 01:49:15 PM
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well...
23/11/2010 04:14:51 PM
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Re: well...
23/11/2010 05:26:14 PM
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Re: well...
23/11/2010 06:42:43 PM
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Yes, a lot of people don't seem to want RAFO "invaded" by new people.
23/11/2010 07:03:14 PM
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new people is not the same as children.
*NM*
23/11/2010 08:30:43 PM
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True, but the same principles apply to people surfing at work or college.
23/11/2010 09:16:30 PM
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Please.
23/11/2010 09:40:16 PM
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Of course they do; who do you think creates all those time sink--er, games?
23/11/2010 11:46:09 PM
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I resent that.
23/11/2010 10:09:36 PM
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Yeah, I may have skipped a few important people, too; sorry.
23/11/2010 11:44:12 PM
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the whole community was younger then. It really doesn't apply to today.
24/11/2010 07:50:56 AM
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Unless you mean the whole internet community, it's far more applicable, but to different individuals
24/11/2010 02:26:01 PM
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188 f-bombs dropped in titles, $hit's used 142 times in titles
22/11/2010 05:01:02 PM
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Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
22/11/2010 06:27:59 PM
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Yea, you're helping exclude dozens, if not hundreds of potential RAFOlk.
22/11/2010 07:42:58 PM
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Watch out. The CIA is watching you post that. And then they're going to arrest EVERYONE.
22/11/2010 08:09:07 PM
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I used the search function, it was just the number of post that had those in their title
22/11/2010 07:45:18 PM
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*waves* Hi! *NM*
22/11/2010 10:17:52 PM
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Hey there!
22/11/2010 10:30:24 PM
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A great deal of us were underage, though.
23/11/2010 01:11:58 AM
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And look what a dirty mouth you got even without our help
*NM*
23/11/2010 08:04:06 AM
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All I can say to that is that people who think cursing on RAFO/WoTmania corrupts the youth
23/11/2010 10:13:26 PM
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Who cares about the cursing. In other ways wotmania did probably corrupt me, though.
23/11/2010 10:25:37 PM
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