Same reason we don't give all our allies (especially neighbors) our best hardware.
Joel Send a noteboard - 23/11/2010 07:43:54 PM
Sinking the South Korean ship earlier this year was a much larger incident than this, so nothing will happen. Also i don't think that China has as much to say regarding the North Korean stance to the south, as some people think.
I (emphasis I) think that China just want to keep NK as a buffert zone, regardless of their leadership. If China really supported NK then why doesn't they export their latest, or even "next" latest military designs to NK. China does posses some military tech that would give SK a headache.
I (emphasis I) think that China just want to keep NK as a buffert zone, regardless of their leadership. If China really supported NK then why doesn't they export their latest, or even "next" latest military designs to NK. China does posses some military tech that would give SK a headache.
Or do you think China trusts Kim anymore than we do? That Kim is any less likely to try extorting them if he thinks he can get away with it? I think China is playing an incredibly dangerous game with a very unstable personality; they don't want to let him get so far away they can't control him (and North Korea would collapse in a month without every kind of aid you can think of coming from China, so they CAN control him if they so desire) but they don't want to appear so close to him they're seen as complicit in his behavior. That's what this whole absurdity about six party talks is about, the conceit that China can't keep North Korea in line, but they'll listen to Russia, South Korea and Japan. The first and the last of those nations fought a war over control of Korea a century ago, and, of course, South Korea has been in armed conflict with North Korea for about half the time since, so I really don't think they can convince North Korea if the superpower propping them up can't.
Tom's right, IMHO, but I've long held that opinion: North Korea isn't there just to provide China a proxy, it's there to antagonize and possibly even nuke Chinas enemies, get obliterated by the retaliation and leave China to go her merry way untouched.
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North Korea attacks South Korea and no one mentions it?
23/11/2010 10:56:03 AM
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"Oh God, Oh God, we are all going to die?"
23/11/2010 11:09:30 AM
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Yup, but the day Beijing decides they're better off not intervening the Appeasers look very dumb.
23/11/2010 11:23:35 AM
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The appeasers look very dumb at this point regardless.
23/11/2010 04:11:41 PM
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yes, because we want to fight *ANOTHER* proxy war with china *NM*
23/11/2010 04:29:18 PM
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"Wanting" has nothing to do with it. There are few alternatives.
23/11/2010 04:50:02 PM
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Honestly, it COULD go either way.
23/11/2010 05:14:18 PM
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The fact that it could go either way is a testimony to the longevity of Chinese leaders.
23/11/2010 07:04:14 PM
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I don't believe in striking first but, frankly, it's long been a moot point.
23/11/2010 05:09:49 PM
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You know I like to sleep in, remember?
23/11/2010 11:20:33 AM
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Agreed
23/11/2010 02:07:30 PM
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I worry North Korea long ago decided to solve domestic problems with international aggression.
23/11/2010 02:26:36 PM
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That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers
23/11/2010 11:40:33 AM
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Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers
23/11/2010 11:46:03 AM
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Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers
23/11/2010 11:57:51 AM
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The really sad part is, that along with everything else worthwhile in the British Empire...
25/11/2010 09:49:00 AM
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I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 01:14:20 PM
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Re: I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 01:15:10 PM
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Re: I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 04:32:17 PM
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Re: I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 04:36:59 PM
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Careful; qualify all your generalizations and people (especially him) will think you're me.
25/11/2010 02:03:42 PM
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Nuke the fuckers and be done with it. And let China know it's their fault. *NM*
23/11/2010 02:58:56 PM
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you know the world doesn't exist until america wakes up in the morning, right? *NM*
23/11/2010 04:27:27 PM
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OK, have had time to read it, and someone needs to fact check a very important part of that article.
23/11/2010 04:52:02 PM
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Fact checking:
23/11/2010 08:38:57 PM
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The term "truce" used in a different Guardian article seems better.
23/11/2010 09:20:19 PM
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Well
23/11/2010 05:24:02 PM
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Same reason we don't give all our allies (especially neighbors) our best hardware.
23/11/2010 07:43:54 PM
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Actually, no, it looks like The Guardian is just schizoid on this subject.
23/11/2010 08:16:45 PM
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This has been coming for a while but I hoped the West would step up and help out. *NM*
23/11/2010 08:31:40 PM
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There's not going to be any all-out conflict
24/11/2010 12:56:44 AM
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They're getting aid from South Korea now, and killing them anyway.
24/11/2010 01:20:33 AM
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No kidding, that's been going on for quite some time.
24/11/2010 02:49:50 AM
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That is the crux of it, I suppose.
24/11/2010 03:02:40 PM
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~shrugs~ SK has lived with this a long time, and will continue to do so.
24/11/2010 10:26:44 PM
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Parts of it have; some South Koreans stopped living with it a few days ago.
25/11/2010 01:48:02 PM
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