Actually, no, it looks like The Guardian is just schizoid on this subject.
Joel Send a noteboard - 23/11/2010 08:16:45 PM
The article yours says was filed at 1620 is subtitled, "Two killed after Pyongyang fires on Yeonpyeong island in first attack on South Korean land since 1953 war". Did you catch that? According to the articles author, this is the first North Korean attack on South Korean land since the cease fire in 1953.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/23/north-korea-condemned-south-korea
Then THIS Guardian article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/23/timeline-north-korea-south-korea
lists a timeline of the conflict since the end of the war; the first thing it reveals is that the war hasn't actually ended, and the next three entries are North Korean attempts to assassinate the South Korean President (though I concede one of them occurred in Burma, last I check Seoul was still in South Korea).
"27 July 1953
The war ends when North and South Korea sign a truce – but there is no formal peace treaty, meaning the two countries remain technically at war. The Korean war cost 2 million lives.
January 1968
North Korean commandos launch a failed assassination attempt on the then president of South Korea, Park Chung-hee.
15 August 1974
There is another assassination attempt on Park Chung-hee, by a North Korean agent in Seoul. Park survives, but the first lady is killed".
I wish people didn't try so hard to make deliberate acts of war into mere misunderstandings.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/23/north-korea-condemned-south-korea
Then THIS Guardian article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/23/timeline-north-korea-south-korea
lists a timeline of the conflict since the end of the war; the first thing it reveals is that the war hasn't actually ended, and the next three entries are North Korean attempts to assassinate the South Korean President (though I concede one of them occurred in Burma, last I check Seoul was still in South Korea).
"27 July 1953
The war ends when North and South Korea sign a truce – but there is no formal peace treaty, meaning the two countries remain technically at war. The Korean war cost 2 million lives.
January 1968
North Korean commandos launch a failed assassination attempt on the then president of South Korea, Park Chung-hee.
15 August 1974
There is another assassination attempt on Park Chung-hee, by a North Korean agent in Seoul. Park survives, but the first lady is killed".
I wish people didn't try so hard to make deliberate acts of war into mere misunderstandings.
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North Korea attacks South Korea and no one mentions it?
23/11/2010 10:56:03 AM
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"Oh God, Oh God, we are all going to die?"
23/11/2010 11:09:30 AM
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Yup, but the day Beijing decides they're better off not intervening the Appeasers look very dumb.
23/11/2010 11:23:35 AM
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The appeasers look very dumb at this point regardless.
23/11/2010 04:11:41 PM
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yes, because we want to fight *ANOTHER* proxy war with china *NM*
23/11/2010 04:29:18 PM
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"Wanting" has nothing to do with it. There are few alternatives.
23/11/2010 04:50:02 PM
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Honestly, it COULD go either way.
23/11/2010 05:14:18 PM
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The fact that it could go either way is a testimony to the longevity of Chinese leaders.
23/11/2010 07:04:14 PM
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I don't believe in striking first but, frankly, it's long been a moot point.
23/11/2010 05:09:49 PM
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You know I like to sleep in, remember?
23/11/2010 11:20:33 AM
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Agreed
23/11/2010 02:07:30 PM
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I worry North Korea long ago decided to solve domestic problems with international aggression.
23/11/2010 02:26:36 PM
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That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers
23/11/2010 11:40:33 AM
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Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers
23/11/2010 11:46:03 AM
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Re: That is 'cause everyone else is hiding out in their nuclear bunkers
23/11/2010 11:57:51 AM
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The really sad part is, that along with everything else worthwhile in the British Empire...
25/11/2010 09:49:00 AM
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I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 01:14:20 PM
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Re: I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 01:15:10 PM
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Re: I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 04:32:17 PM
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Re: I actually had no clue.
23/11/2010 04:36:59 PM
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Careful; qualify all your generalizations and people (especially him) will think you're me.
25/11/2010 02:03:42 PM
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Nuke the fuckers and be done with it. And let China know it's their fault. *NM*
23/11/2010 02:58:56 PM
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you know the world doesn't exist until america wakes up in the morning, right? *NM*
23/11/2010 04:27:27 PM
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OK, have had time to read it, and someone needs to fact check a very important part of that article.
23/11/2010 04:52:02 PM
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Fact checking:
23/11/2010 08:38:57 PM
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The term "truce" used in a different Guardian article seems better.
23/11/2010 09:20:19 PM
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Well
23/11/2010 05:24:02 PM
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Same reason we don't give all our allies (especially neighbors) our best hardware.
23/11/2010 07:43:54 PM
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Actually, no, it looks like The Guardian is just schizoid on this subject.
23/11/2010 08:16:45 PM
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This has been coming for a while but I hoped the West would step up and help out. *NM*
23/11/2010 08:31:40 PM
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There's not going to be any all-out conflict
24/11/2010 12:56:44 AM
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They're getting aid from South Korea now, and killing them anyway.
24/11/2010 01:20:33 AM
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No kidding, that's been going on for quite some time.
24/11/2010 02:49:50 AM
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That is the crux of it, I suppose.
24/11/2010 03:02:40 PM
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~shrugs~ SK has lived with this a long time, and will continue to do so.
24/11/2010 10:26:44 PM
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Parts of it have; some South Koreans stopped living with it a few days ago.
25/11/2010 01:48:02 PM
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