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Seems to put atheists in a bit of a catch-22 there. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 05:54:25 AM
No life other than us means that God created us especially, and life other than us means God created the universe to harbor life.

Of course, if your point was just that the discovery of extraterrestrial life shouldn't impact one's faith, then I agree with you.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Is NASA set to reveal on Thursday signs of possible extraterrestial life within the solar system? Larry - 30/11/2010 03:49:40 AM 1121 Views
Interesting. Darth_Katie - 30/11/2010 04:43:15 AM 607 Views
crap! I will be watching this! dacole - 30/11/2010 05:04:58 AM 739 Views
Goddammit Wikileaks get on this *NM* beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 05:05:19 AM 304 Views
There's no one to smear, why would wikileaks be interested? *NM* Macharius - 30/11/2010 01:45:58 PM 285 Views
photsynthesis using arsnic hmm I am going to have to check this out dacole - 30/11/2010 05:07:22 AM 728 Views
If there is life in the solar system then it is likely a natural development in the universe. Tom - 30/11/2010 05:12:38 AM 641 Views
Re: If there is life in the solar system then it is likely a natural development in the universe. dacole - 30/11/2010 05:18:05 AM 797 Views
Seems to put atheists in a bit of a catch-22 there. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 05:54:25 AM 764 Views
Bwa? Craig - 30/11/2010 06:45:33 AM 691 Views
Sorry, yeah. That is not my position. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:03:17 AM 683 Views
The best will be when we find other intelligent life beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 02:32:35 PM 607 Views
Well, I don't actually agree with the first part of your Catch-22. At least, not entirely. Tom - 30/11/2010 02:43:13 PM 731 Views
Using anthropomorphic terms to describe the universe only reflects on you, not on the universe. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 30/11/2010 07:31:04 PM 310 Views
What an arbitrary and meaningless statement. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:52:13 PM 247 Views
Anthropomorphizing concepts is a cognitive bias. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/11/2010 11:19:23 PM 595 Views
Only given a certain metaphysical framework. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 12:18:09 AM 638 Views
Mind dumbing that down a bit? Isaac - 01/12/2010 12:43:47 AM 577 Views
I think he is saying Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:26:34 AM 773 Views
That ain't not a lot simpler Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:35:38 AM 705 Views
Yes. Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:44:41 AM 672 Views
In short, demanding that everyone use your particular worldview is unfair. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 02:21:26 AM 673 Views
Those worldviews are unsupported by empirical evidence. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 01:41:27 AM 749 Views
No worldviews are supported by empirical evidence. *NM* ranagrande - 01/12/2010 01:57:23 AM 292 Views
Empiricism is unsupported by empirical evidence. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 02:21:52 AM 257 Views
Empirical evidence is the only objective standard. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 02:59:18 AM 636 Views
Empirical evidence cannot fully explain reality. ranagrande - 01/12/2010 03:28:41 AM 713 Views
Re: Question (use google now!): what's the net energy of the universe? Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:35:57 AM 659 Views
Re: Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:45:22 AM 858 Views
Re: Re: ranagrande - 01/12/2010 04:04:38 AM 643 Views
Time does not exist separately from space, as Einstein demonstrated almost a century ago. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 03:36:56 AM 719 Views
I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet ranagrande - 01/12/2010 03:56:38 AM 981 Views
Re: I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 04:30:44 AM 1030 Views
Yes. I know what empiricism is. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 05:17:05 AM 951 Views
Re: You are a smart person. Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:09:13 AM 625 Views
Thanks. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 03:30:46 AM 865 Views
Interesting. I agree with what you're saying, actually. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:49:51 PM 575 Views
It won't change the argument in the least. Dannymac - 01/12/2010 05:26:16 AM 767 Views
I have the feeling it's probably not going to be that. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 06:02:48 AM 651 Views
Ohh, exciting! ironclad - 30/11/2010 08:37:32 AM 610 Views
noooo! Yunalesca - 30/11/2010 10:19:27 AM 575 Views
Boring primitive things would be cool. Darth_Katie - 30/11/2010 02:54:10 PM 580 Views
Hey, there's a name I recognize, "Iron Lisa" Isaac - 30/11/2010 09:25:01 AM 715 Views
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 02:33:30 PM 673 Views
I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords. *NM* ranagrande - 30/11/2010 02:35:04 PM 257 Views
"I, for one, welcome our new INSECT overlords"! Isaac - 01/12/2010 12:40:27 AM 651 Views
but we don't know if they're insects yet! ranagrande - 01/12/2010 12:55:52 AM 593 Views
I'll not bow to any mere Bacterial Overlords, Eukaryote Overlords only!!! *NM* Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:02:20 AM 263 Views
So you're prejudiced against the nuclearly challenged? ranagrande - 01/12/2010 01:09:57 AM 607 Views
It's this kind of blind adherence to political correctness that is tearing us apart! Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:28:39 AM 587 Views
Down right genocidal toward them Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:31:47 AM 586 Views
Genocide is a bit extreme ranagrande - 01/12/2010 02:13:18 AM 618 Views
They had better have a green man *NM* Camilla - 30/11/2010 10:45:56 AM 230 Views
Because you need somebody to attack Aginor and Balthamel? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 01/12/2010 01:04:23 AM 233 Views
Oh no you didn't *NM* Camilla - 01/12/2010 01:14:55 AM 230 Views
Seriously. Craig - 01/12/2010 01:26:54 AM 574 Views
Re: But then you got turned on just thinking about the phrase? Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:23:02 AM 672 Views
I'm actually a tiny bit giddy about this. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 01/12/2010 01:04:49 AM 244 Views
Re: Arsenic. *NM* Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:09:51 AM 259 Views
Re: Perhaps just as awesomely: Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:21:35 AM 720 Views
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