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Had that convo with the cab driver on the way home from a New Years party. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/01/2011 11:42:07 PM
And I am sick of the level of stupidity some otherwise intelligence people have gone to "prove" Palin is stupid. I mean really when the loonies are complaining that they think she wasn’t being sensitive enough when she defended herself against their slander then you really just have to throw your hands up and call it quits because you can't argue with crazy.


Since when did anyone have to go to any lengths at all to prove Sarah Palin is a dumbfuck? Have you heard her? Have you looked at her dumbfuck face? McCain should be jailed for unleashing her on this country. She's taken politics, which have always been a circus, and turned it into the biggest circus in the world.

I wouldn't leave the country right now if the best vacation in the world was offered to me, because I'd be too embarrassed to be seen by the rest of the world. The second anyone outside of this country found out I was American, they'd see the connection I have with Sarah Palin (being American) and I would feel the strong need to jump in front of a bus.

Soon as he found out I was American (which was pretty much the moment I opened my mouth) my fiancee and I were discussing Palin with him. We had a much shorter discussion of Obama, but Palin was still first even though the President was awarded the Nobel prize here last year. We ultimately moved on to a discussion of how startlingly Brazils president (the guy has a fourth grade education!) has taken them from 2000% inflation to a top five global economy; he took office as a friend of labor whom the right hated but steered a middle course that has everyone cheering, and perhaps Obama was trying to emulate him (though Brazils stimulus was in the laws, not corporate handouts). But by far the person we discussed most was Sarah Palin and I found myself in the same boat I've often been as a Christian talking to people scarred by demagogues in THAT arena: Trying to demonstrate that we're not all hate filled and insane, can even agree and identify with people so many, supposedly even among ourselvses, believe we're required to despise.

Meanwhile, China, India and Brazil are kicking butt and taking names; we need to pry our hands from around each others throats and stop insisting we're infallible and every other country hopelessly wrong. We made our names stealing and improving good ideas from abroad (e.g. steam engine, railroad, cars, assembly lines, standardized parts, rocketry, radio, TV) as much as by innovating our own, taking the best from every other country and leaving the bad to make the strongest, richest most free nation on the planet. If we don't remember that, and soon, instead of insisting everyone learn English we'll all have to learn "Do you want fries with that?" in three other languages.... :[
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OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 16/01/2011 12:18:22 PM 2093 Views
Why are they calling it "blood libel"? - 16/01/2011 12:23:47 PM 942 Views
Because if the facts were as they represent them those words would be applicable. - 16/01/2011 12:49:22 PM 1122 Views
It's not entirely clear to me whether you're aware of this or not, but... - 16/01/2011 01:12:22 PM 1167 Views
That's why I said, "popularized". - 16/01/2011 01:46:52 PM 1111 Views
I think Alan Dershowitz dealt with this nonsense already - 16/01/2011 02:34:10 PM 1477 Views
Interesting. I didn't realize it was so wide-spread. - 16/01/2011 03:10:28 PM 1020 Views
She wasn't even the first to use the term that week either - 16/01/2011 10:10:35 PM 1049 Views
I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 10:18:54 PM 1041 Views
Re: I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 11:30:38 PM 950 Views
Oh please don't you start to - 17/01/2011 02:34:43 PM 893 Views
I for one hadn't noticed it before. - 17/01/2011 10:25:57 PM 1077 Views
it was used here and nobody commented - 17/01/2011 10:37:07 PM 958 Views
LOL, I totally forgot that got posted here - 17/01/2011 10:54:26 PM 1005 Views
It's funny you should say that... - 18/01/2011 10:32:59 PM 1047 Views
Re: It's funny you should say that... - 19/01/2011 03:29:52 PM 1027 Views
It was permissible to ignore until it became a rallying cry. - 20/01/2011 04:27:23 PM 1071 Views
A rallying cry is hardly illegal - 20/01/2011 05:32:45 PM 1111 Views
I never said it was. - 20/01/2011 06:59:39 PM 1211 Views
Oh, I noticed that one alright. - 18/01/2011 10:25:23 PM 889 Views
compared to the way similar terms are used? - 19/01/2011 06:58:02 PM 1032 Views
I meant I hadn't seen it used in different contexts before. - 19/01/2011 07:35:00 PM 1009 Views
Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 10:24:09 PM 1095 Views
Re: Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 11:09:21 PM 1129 Views
Again, Giffords specifically made the connection between Palins imagery and an attack on her. - 17/01/2011 12:53:08 AM 1275 Views
That means precisely nothing - 17/01/2011 03:59:07 PM 963 Views
It means everything. - 18/01/2011 08:34:55 PM 1224 Views
I'm trying to understand your logic - 19/01/2011 12:50:28 AM 830 Views
There are two points: - 19/01/2011 02:47:48 AM 1035 Views
Re: It means everything. - 19/01/2011 05:55:02 PM 861 Views
That's simply illogical. - 20/01/2011 01:08:51 AM 1246 Views
the old step one steal underwear step three profit argument - 19/01/2011 06:01:14 PM 1118 Views
that is some twisted and bizarre logic - 17/01/2011 02:38:41 PM 1065 Views
So I am a little confused on something... - 16/01/2011 02:38:59 PM 1109 Views
Palin putting Giffords district in the crosshairs and Giffords implying at the time she feared this - 16/01/2011 11:21:36 PM 1248 Views
If I understand what you are saying correctly... - 17/01/2011 07:07:56 AM 988 Views
I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 08:33:47 AM 1004 Views
Re: I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 04:24:01 PM 1060 Views
The Secret Service does guard Congressmen, just not all of them automatically. - 18/01/2011 09:13:39 PM 877 Views
No, they don't - 18/01/2011 10:19:34 PM 1074 Views
Really? Cannoli says differently, and I believe he's right on that one. - 18/01/2011 10:50:51 PM 1155 Views
You seem to be reading what you want to from what I said - 19/01/2011 01:27:32 PM 1010 Views
I read what you said & understood it as you restate here, hence I referenced local police (twice) - 20/01/2011 02:15:17 AM 1045 Views
The problem here is your ignoring normal policing powers to concoct an absurdity - 20/01/2011 04:20:25 PM 1104 Views
More absurd than the notion such incitement warrants no notice? - 20/01/2011 05:42:47 PM 1127 Views
Your shifting your original premise, *again* - 20/01/2011 08:24:18 PM 973 Views
No, you're simply missing the point of it. - 20/01/2011 11:09:57 PM 989 Views
There is no point - 21/01/2011 12:22:30 AM 1021 Views
If I had no point I wouldn't bother, but fair enough. - 21/01/2011 01:20:32 AM 1269 Views
Uh...Last I checked conservatives didn't list the Communist Manifesto as a favourite book. - 16/01/2011 03:05:07 PM 1287 Views
You're awesome at missing points, aren't you? - 16/01/2011 07:26:30 PM 1030 Views
where is the accountability for those committing slander? - 17/01/2011 02:52:40 PM 954 Views
Libs hate Mein Kampf and We the Living; conservatives hate the Communist Manifesto: He's neither. - 16/01/2011 10:06:02 PM 981 Views
conseartives hate Mein Kampf and liberals stil read the Communist Manifesto - 17/01/2011 02:57:22 PM 970 Views
That first line is says it all. - 18/01/2011 09:34:06 PM 1051 Views
Nazis had more in common with communist then capitalist - 19/01/2011 04:10:09 PM 1159 Views
The founder of fascism called it "the merger of corporate and national power". - 20/01/2011 02:51:09 AM 1045 Views
and that is supposed to mean something? - 20/01/2011 06:06:18 PM 1046 Views
YOU are cherry picking. - 20/01/2011 07:50:21 PM 983 Views
It is to be expected that this site would be libtard central... - 16/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1265 Views
See my reply to Dragonsoul above. - 16/01/2011 07:30:40 PM 1094 Views
Yeah, your first was better - 16/01/2011 09:48:58 PM 910 Views
Palin didn't really have anything to do with this, but it makes sense she's blamed. - 16/01/2011 10:19:51 PM 992 Views
Pretty much. - 16/01/2011 11:44:35 PM 1054 Views
Did they ever catch the person(s) that vandalized Gifford's office? *NM* - 17/01/2011 03:30:36 AM 485 Views
politcal offices are vandalized on a regular basis *NM* - 17/01/2011 02:41:29 PM 454 Views
She only asked if they caught the guy, she didn't accuse anyone, Sarah. - 18/01/2011 11:27:18 PM 940 Views
OK Olberman when did I imply otherwise? *NM* - 19/01/2011 02:48:41 PM 493 Views
"Political offices are vandalized on a regular basis". - 20/01/2011 03:16:39 AM 1132 Views
Took you this long, huh? - 17/01/2011 01:53:31 PM 889 Views
I am sick of the desperate attempts of liberals to find a way to use a tragedy - 17/01/2011 02:31:18 PM 919 Views
I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:23:47 PM 880 Views
Re: I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:28:04 PM 1028 Views
I always said I'd do that after Bush was re-elected. - 18/01/2011 11:52:45 PM 903 Views
like I said a matter of faith - 17/01/2011 04:27:51 PM 894 Views
I find it interesting... - 17/01/2011 05:31:54 PM 1044 Views
I mention her looks solely because... - 20/01/2011 02:30:42 PM 931 Views
Had that convo with the cab driver on the way home from a New Years party. - 18/01/2011 11:42:07 PM 1175 Views
If slander, not mine, Giffords' (at least you don't err like Palin and say, "libel" ). - 18/01/2011 11:14:23 PM 1102 Views
mark you calendar today is the day Joel offically went around the bend into insanity - 19/01/2011 05:28:06 PM 915 Views
A mirror will show me who's to blame? On whom have I put a crosshairs? - 20/01/2011 03:23:43 AM 972 Views
so it is all a matter of faith for you - 20/01/2011 05:48:44 AM 904 Views
No, it's fairly straight forward logic. - 20/01/2011 03:25:56 PM 1017 Views
sorry Joel but you haven't - 20/01/2011 03:29:49 PM 818 Views
It's there; in this thread alone people from both sides of the aisle have acknowledged that. - 20/01/2011 05:51:21 PM 905 Views
only in your does the connection exisit - 20/01/2011 06:39:35 PM 947 Views
No. - 20/01/2011 07:35:09 PM 1028 Views
dude wake up - 20/01/2011 08:54:33 PM 1160 Views
So in your opinion... - 17/01/2011 05:27:58 PM 900 Views
How 'bout simply color coding them? - 18/01/2011 11:21:03 PM 944 Views
Why not just blame Giffords? - 17/01/2011 06:07:14 PM 1238 Views
Indeed, why not; Sarah Palin does. - 18/01/2011 06:58:01 PM 1074 Views
The irony of this thread is not lost on me. - 19/01/2011 04:09:01 PM 1082 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 19/01/2011 04:51:40 PM 536 Views
Bizarre thread for that Soapbox - 19/01/2011 05:17:58 PM 826 Views
You missed the point, obviously. - 19/01/2011 06:04:23 PM 932 Views
so you are saying it is the same old RAFO - 19/01/2011 06:47:24 PM 1006 Views
The thread has admittedly degenerated - 19/01/2011 07:02:12 PM 857 Views
Check your NB. Noted you a response. *NM* - 19/01/2011 07:04:58 PM 519 Views
That I knew it would go this way is why I avoided looking closely for so long. - 19/01/2011 11:20:44 PM 1086 Views
Hey, now. I have to step in. - 20/01/2011 04:44:49 PM 1113 Views
I'm just saying a significant link can be demonstrated. - 20/01/2011 07:07:27 PM 1160 Views
Re: OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 22/01/2011 05:49:44 PM 1099 Views

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