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Had that convo with the cab driver on the way home from a New Years party. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/01/2011 11:42:07 PM
And I am sick of the level of stupidity some otherwise intelligence people have gone to "prove" Palin is stupid. I mean really when the loonies are complaining that they think she wasn’t being sensitive enough when she defended herself against their slander then you really just have to throw your hands up and call it quits because you can't argue with crazy.


Since when did anyone have to go to any lengths at all to prove Sarah Palin is a dumbfuck? Have you heard her? Have you looked at her dumbfuck face? McCain should be jailed for unleashing her on this country. She's taken politics, which have always been a circus, and turned it into the biggest circus in the world.

I wouldn't leave the country right now if the best vacation in the world was offered to me, because I'd be too embarrassed to be seen by the rest of the world. The second anyone outside of this country found out I was American, they'd see the connection I have with Sarah Palin (being American) and I would feel the strong need to jump in front of a bus.

Soon as he found out I was American (which was pretty much the moment I opened my mouth) my fiancee and I were discussing Palin with him. We had a much shorter discussion of Obama, but Palin was still first even though the President was awarded the Nobel prize here last year. We ultimately moved on to a discussion of how startlingly Brazils president (the guy has a fourth grade education!) has taken them from 2000% inflation to a top five global economy; he took office as a friend of labor whom the right hated but steered a middle course that has everyone cheering, and perhaps Obama was trying to emulate him (though Brazils stimulus was in the laws, not corporate handouts). But by far the person we discussed most was Sarah Palin and I found myself in the same boat I've often been as a Christian talking to people scarred by demagogues in THAT arena: Trying to demonstrate that we're not all hate filled and insane, can even agree and identify with people so many, supposedly even among ourselvses, believe we're required to despise.

Meanwhile, China, India and Brazil are kicking butt and taking names; we need to pry our hands from around each others throats and stop insisting we're infallible and every other country hopelessly wrong. We made our names stealing and improving good ideas from abroad (e.g. steam engine, railroad, cars, assembly lines, standardized parts, rocketry, radio, TV) as much as by innovating our own, taking the best from every other country and leaving the bad to make the strongest, richest most free nation on the planet. If we don't remember that, and soon, instead of insisting everyone learn English we'll all have to learn "Do you want fries with that?" in three other languages.... :[
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OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 16/01/2011 12:18:22 PM 2123 Views
Why are they calling it "blood libel"? - 16/01/2011 12:23:47 PM 979 Views
Because if the facts were as they represent them those words would be applicable. - 16/01/2011 12:49:22 PM 1151 Views
It's not entirely clear to me whether you're aware of this or not, but... - 16/01/2011 01:12:22 PM 1196 Views
That's why I said, "popularized". - 16/01/2011 01:46:52 PM 1142 Views
I think Alan Dershowitz dealt with this nonsense already - 16/01/2011 02:34:10 PM 1511 Views
Interesting. I didn't realize it was so wide-spread. - 16/01/2011 03:10:28 PM 1054 Views
She wasn't even the first to use the term that week either - 16/01/2011 10:10:35 PM 1082 Views
I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 10:18:54 PM 1069 Views
Re: I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 11:30:38 PM 975 Views
Oh please don't you start to - 17/01/2011 02:34:43 PM 923 Views
I for one hadn't noticed it before. - 17/01/2011 10:25:57 PM 1110 Views
it was used here and nobody commented - 17/01/2011 10:37:07 PM 992 Views
LOL, I totally forgot that got posted here - 17/01/2011 10:54:26 PM 1038 Views
It's funny you should say that... - 18/01/2011 10:32:59 PM 1079 Views
Re: It's funny you should say that... - 19/01/2011 03:29:52 PM 1059 Views
It was permissible to ignore until it became a rallying cry. - 20/01/2011 04:27:23 PM 1098 Views
A rallying cry is hardly illegal - 20/01/2011 05:32:45 PM 1151 Views
I never said it was. - 20/01/2011 06:59:39 PM 1242 Views
Oh, I noticed that one alright. - 18/01/2011 10:25:23 PM 920 Views
compared to the way similar terms are used? - 19/01/2011 06:58:02 PM 1066 Views
I meant I hadn't seen it used in different contexts before. - 19/01/2011 07:35:00 PM 1038 Views
Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 10:24:09 PM 1127 Views
Re: Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 11:09:21 PM 1160 Views
Again, Giffords specifically made the connection between Palins imagery and an attack on her. - 17/01/2011 12:53:08 AM 1308 Views
That means precisely nothing - 17/01/2011 03:59:07 PM 1011 Views
It means everything. - 18/01/2011 08:34:55 PM 1255 Views
I'm trying to understand your logic - 19/01/2011 12:50:28 AM 859 Views
There are two points: - 19/01/2011 02:47:48 AM 1067 Views
Re: It means everything. - 19/01/2011 05:55:02 PM 894 Views
That's simply illogical. - 20/01/2011 01:08:51 AM 1277 Views
the old step one steal underwear step three profit argument - 19/01/2011 06:01:14 PM 1147 Views
that is some twisted and bizarre logic - 17/01/2011 02:38:41 PM 1094 Views
So I am a little confused on something... - 16/01/2011 02:38:59 PM 1142 Views
Palin putting Giffords district in the crosshairs and Giffords implying at the time she feared this - 16/01/2011 11:21:36 PM 1279 Views
If I understand what you are saying correctly... - 17/01/2011 07:07:56 AM 1015 Views
I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 08:33:47 AM 1033 Views
Re: I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 04:24:01 PM 1092 Views
The Secret Service does guard Congressmen, just not all of them automatically. - 18/01/2011 09:13:39 PM 906 Views
No, they don't - 18/01/2011 10:19:34 PM 1110 Views
Really? Cannoli says differently, and I believe he's right on that one. - 18/01/2011 10:50:51 PM 1185 Views
You seem to be reading what you want to from what I said - 19/01/2011 01:27:32 PM 1040 Views
I read what you said & understood it as you restate here, hence I referenced local police (twice) - 20/01/2011 02:15:17 AM 1075 Views
The problem here is your ignoring normal policing powers to concoct an absurdity - 20/01/2011 04:20:25 PM 1174 Views
More absurd than the notion such incitement warrants no notice? - 20/01/2011 05:42:47 PM 1155 Views
Your shifting your original premise, *again* - 20/01/2011 08:24:18 PM 999 Views
No, you're simply missing the point of it. - 20/01/2011 11:09:57 PM 1018 Views
There is no point - 21/01/2011 12:22:30 AM 1053 Views
If I had no point I wouldn't bother, but fair enough. - 21/01/2011 01:20:32 AM 1303 Views
Uh...Last I checked conservatives didn't list the Communist Manifesto as a favourite book. - 16/01/2011 03:05:07 PM 1324 Views
You're awesome at missing points, aren't you? - 16/01/2011 07:26:30 PM 1061 Views
where is the accountability for those committing slander? - 17/01/2011 02:52:40 PM 987 Views
Libs hate Mein Kampf and We the Living; conservatives hate the Communist Manifesto: He's neither. - 16/01/2011 10:06:02 PM 1007 Views
conseartives hate Mein Kampf and liberals stil read the Communist Manifesto - 17/01/2011 02:57:22 PM 997 Views
That first line is says it all. - 18/01/2011 09:34:06 PM 1080 Views
Nazis had more in common with communist then capitalist - 19/01/2011 04:10:09 PM 1187 Views
The founder of fascism called it "the merger of corporate and national power". - 20/01/2011 02:51:09 AM 1076 Views
and that is supposed to mean something? - 20/01/2011 06:06:18 PM 1079 Views
YOU are cherry picking. - 20/01/2011 07:50:21 PM 1020 Views
It is to be expected that this site would be libtard central... - 16/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1293 Views
See my reply to Dragonsoul above. - 16/01/2011 07:30:40 PM 1127 Views
Yeah, your first was better - 16/01/2011 09:48:58 PM 937 Views
Palin didn't really have anything to do with this, but it makes sense she's blamed. - 16/01/2011 10:19:51 PM 1023 Views
Pretty much. - 16/01/2011 11:44:35 PM 1085 Views
Did they ever catch the person(s) that vandalized Gifford's office? *NM* - 17/01/2011 03:30:36 AM 496 Views
politcal offices are vandalized on a regular basis *NM* - 17/01/2011 02:41:29 PM 465 Views
She only asked if they caught the guy, she didn't accuse anyone, Sarah. - 18/01/2011 11:27:18 PM 973 Views
OK Olberman when did I imply otherwise? *NM* - 19/01/2011 02:48:41 PM 508 Views
"Political offices are vandalized on a regular basis". - 20/01/2011 03:16:39 AM 1164 Views
Took you this long, huh? - 17/01/2011 01:53:31 PM 917 Views
I am sick of the desperate attempts of liberals to find a way to use a tragedy - 17/01/2011 02:31:18 PM 947 Views
I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:23:47 PM 904 Views
Re: I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:28:04 PM 1061 Views
I always said I'd do that after Bush was re-elected. - 18/01/2011 11:52:45 PM 933 Views
like I said a matter of faith - 17/01/2011 04:27:51 PM 920 Views
I find it interesting... - 17/01/2011 05:31:54 PM 1076 Views
I mention her looks solely because... - 20/01/2011 02:30:42 PM 959 Views
Had that convo with the cab driver on the way home from a New Years party. - 18/01/2011 11:42:07 PM 1211 Views
If slander, not mine, Giffords' (at least you don't err like Palin and say, "libel" ). - 18/01/2011 11:14:23 PM 1128 Views
mark you calendar today is the day Joel offically went around the bend into insanity - 19/01/2011 05:28:06 PM 949 Views
A mirror will show me who's to blame? On whom have I put a crosshairs? - 20/01/2011 03:23:43 AM 1005 Views
so it is all a matter of faith for you - 20/01/2011 05:48:44 AM 937 Views
No, it's fairly straight forward logic. - 20/01/2011 03:25:56 PM 1047 Views
sorry Joel but you haven't - 20/01/2011 03:29:49 PM 842 Views
It's there; in this thread alone people from both sides of the aisle have acknowledged that. - 20/01/2011 05:51:21 PM 938 Views
only in your does the connection exisit - 20/01/2011 06:39:35 PM 981 Views
No. - 20/01/2011 07:35:09 PM 1058 Views
dude wake up - 20/01/2011 08:54:33 PM 1190 Views
So in your opinion... - 17/01/2011 05:27:58 PM 932 Views
How 'bout simply color coding them? - 18/01/2011 11:21:03 PM 974 Views
Why not just blame Giffords? - 17/01/2011 06:07:14 PM 1266 Views
Indeed, why not; Sarah Palin does. - 18/01/2011 06:58:01 PM 1102 Views
The irony of this thread is not lost on me. - 19/01/2011 04:09:01 PM 1112 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 19/01/2011 04:51:40 PM 551 Views
Bizarre thread for that Soapbox - 19/01/2011 05:17:58 PM 853 Views
You missed the point, obviously. - 19/01/2011 06:04:23 PM 959 Views
so you are saying it is the same old RAFO - 19/01/2011 06:47:24 PM 1040 Views
The thread has admittedly degenerated - 19/01/2011 07:02:12 PM 883 Views
Check your NB. Noted you a response. *NM* - 19/01/2011 07:04:58 PM 532 Views
That I knew it would go this way is why I avoided looking closely for so long. - 19/01/2011 11:20:44 PM 1118 Views
Hey, now. I have to step in. - 20/01/2011 04:44:49 PM 1146 Views
I'm just saying a significant link can be demonstrated. - 20/01/2011 07:07:27 PM 1187 Views
Re: OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 22/01/2011 05:49:44 PM 1131 Views

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